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Me, who uses my phone before and after bed, with no issues getting or staying asleep: lol
Curious if you use dark mode, reduced brightness, or the feature that shifts away from blue light at night. I use all those and I think that's why my phone use doesn't seem to affect my sleep. In fact, I often fall asleep mid-scroll.
Dark mode and reduced brightness 24/7, and I don't think I use a blue light filter, but the black and white night mode comes on when I charge my phone at night. But I'm also looking at regular monitors until about 10 min before I go lay down, so idk.
Interesting, thanks for the response. Same as my situation except I use the blue light filter on most if not all my devices. I am so used to it, don't even notice that it looks kind of orange anymore.
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Wait, morning phone bad too?
It's bad for me, but not for that reason.
It's bad for me because I piss a whole hour or two of my morning away doomscrolling. That makes me late to work. So I end up staying later to make up lost time, I get home late, and then I wonder why I have no time at the end of the day to do anything...
I'm doing it right now, in fact. I will stop.
Perfect description of what I do most days. 😬
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I believe it's bad
Dgaf
Scientism is bad for you
Edit: To all the downvoters, I'm not dissing Science. Science is a wonderous method for finding the truth of the universe. However Scientism is the logical fallacy that all there is to know is known by science already and can only be known by science. Or in essence, treating Science as an infalliable religion, when even scientists will not do that if they value their jobs.
Hey my doc says I got one of them in my eye
I woke up, opened Lemmy, and this was the first post I saw lmao
Science is about finding the rules that govern the universe... And then trying to break them.
Wasn't it confirmed recently to be total nonsense and nothing to do with circadian rhythms? Compared to the sun a phone puts out very little light and the circadian rhythm only respond to slow changes in light, not on and off in a short time.
It's more about your phone keeping your mind active instead of relaxing and going to sleep. But if you already can't sleep because your mind is churning on something, a bit of distraction might actually help. It's very personal and not a clear cut rule on who has trouble sleeping from phone use or when to put down the phone.
So it isn't like using your phone before sleeping will never have an effect on how well you get to sleep. But it has nothing to do with blue light or circadian rhythms.
Couldn't find the study confirming this. Can you link to it, please?
I think there are multiple, I read an article recently where it was stated by an expert. But checking back now they don't link any sources except the name of the expert, which seems to be a respected expert in the field, but that means nothing in the end.
This is one of the papers I could find within 2 mins, but I think there have been multiple papers on this.
https://www.nature.com/articles/s41562-023-01791-7
There has also been a lot of criticism on the original study that said blue light from phones was the issue, so there are probably a lot of response papers to be found about that.
Some years ago I started reading in bed before going to sleep. Pretty much always, I'm reading a book on my tablet. Now I find that the habit/routine of it helps me go to sleep.
The exception is when the book is so engrossing that I have a hard time putting it down and end up staying awake longer than I should.
The best thing I found to help me sleep well was getting my adhd diagnosis and meds. It's so much easier to sleep when the voices in your head shut the fuck up
The whole "blue light" thing is the new "wifi is going to give you cancer".
tbh almost every time I see a system settings panel or a program that lets you reduce blue light on a schedule, it's always accompanied with a description that sounds like "reducing blue light may help you sleep better". I don't think there are many people touting it as some sort of scientific neurological thing, it's just that many users have a personal preference for reduced blue light at nighttime, and the developers want to accommodate that preference. Not everything has to be backed up by scientific research, sometimes people just like things.
Probably also varies depending on the type of content people are checking while on their phone. I can stay awake forever playing Balatro while reading usually knocks me out real quick.
Just one more run...
I think what was proven wrong was the significance of the color of light. The original study had people using iPads at like maximum brightness.
The migraine afterwards would probably keep me awake, too.
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But just to be clear, I believe it.
I just don't do it.
Science isn't the boss of me. Just my body, mind, and pretty much everything else.
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I sleep so much better after I started doing this. Seriously, try it out for like a week/month and you'll never go back, I swear
Can confirm. I used to have sleep issues (like anyone else in the 21st century). Now I love jumping into bed because I go out like a rock