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I'm from Mexico, and the most used chat application is WhatsApp. It's used for EVERYTHING. I use Telegram only for contacting my family members (both my parents and my brother). They also use it only for this family chat. All my (and their) contacts use WhatsApp instead.

Now with the news that Telegram will collaborate with Twitter, I feel that I should delete it. Not that Zuck is any better than Musk, but still...

Also I don't think it's worth the effort to teach my parents yet another messaging app, like signal.

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[–] [email protected] 24 points 5 days ago* (last edited 5 days ago) (1 children)

Signal is definitely said to be encrypted. But you can bet there’s a back door in there. Specially with all the recent scrutiny on it in the news, hackers are figuring out ways in.

Wow: you know nothing.

  • security at Telegram is amateur hour
  • the Signal protocol (used by Signal & WhatsApp) is open source, auditable by anyone, and has been audited by security researchers

A real guide on secure communication.

[–] [email protected] -5 points 5 days ago (1 children)

Care to elaborate? I'm not on anyone's side here but this was a weak argument. I'm sure there's a name for that kind of fallacy.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 5 days ago* (last edited 5 days ago) (1 children)

An observation isn't a fallacy: not an ounce of anything firm to substantiate what they wrote, just impression & hot takes.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 5 days ago* (last edited 5 days ago) (1 children)

Sneaky edit, there...

My point was that all you wrote was "you know nothing" as if that is enough to refute anything.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 5 days ago (1 children)

“you know nothing” as if that is enough to refute anything

Not really. Man, that comment is so painfully misinformed it wows me isn't really an argument.

Sneaky edit, there…

Let's review timestamps:

  • mine

    Created: Sunday, June 1st, 2025 at 1:27:38 AM GMT-04:00
    Modified Sunday, June 1st, 2025 at 1:58:50 AM GMT-04:00

  • yours

    Sunday, June 1st, 2025 at 2:01:03 AM GMT-04:00

A change before your input.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 5 days ago

A change before your input.

Fair enough, it was edited while I was typing my comment I guess, so silly of me to assume.

isn't really an argument

There's an implied argument there that they're wrong about something, obviously. The implication is so strong that if you didn't mean to make an argument, it was pretty confusing.

But if you really insist, fair enough to that as well. 🤷‍♂️