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[–] [email protected] 254 points 11 hours ago (28 children)

Weird. The party that claims to be "for the people" keeps putting centrists in charge. We're ready for someone who is actually for the people!

[–] [email protected] 165 points 11 hours ago (12 children)

Quickest way to mobilize the Democratic party is to threaten to put a progressive in charge

[–] [email protected] 115 points 10 hours ago (8 children)

They learned their lesson with Obama. The funny thing is he’s not even a fucking leftist, the party is just so full of dinosaurs they think a modern centrist is a leftist.

[–] [email protected] 44 points 10 hours ago (2 children)

With Obama they just learned how to take a somewhat progressive candidates and bend them into a moderate. It's the same thing that happened with Kamala, although of course it's hard to say if either were ever really progressive or if they just used that for votes and didn't mind discarding it once they got pressured by the party and consultants.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 4 hours ago

Obama wasn’t even somewhat progressive before the Democratic Party. He was against gay marriage for a while.

[–] [email protected] 37 points 8 hours ago (3 children)

Kamala was never progressive.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 7 hours ago (1 children)

Yeah I definitely agree, both Kamala and Obama are candidates that acted progressive in their primaries but as soon as they eventually got the nomination they went towards the corporate Democrat establishment. My main question is whether they were progressive at some point but let themselves be changed by the establishment, consultants, and donors or if they never really cared that much to begin with. The end state is the same but the difference is important as it gives us insight into how much power the consultants and others have over candidates vs if they didn't really care then it wouldn't have taken much to change them.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 hour ago

Kamala was picked as VP because Dems thought she would get votes from the republicans who aren't so MAGA. She's on the conservative side of things: tough on crime as AG, opposed cannabis legalization (changed position later), opposed abolition of death penalty (flipped later), etc.

[–] [email protected] 8 points 8 hours ago

In general, no. In terms of specific policies as an AG, there were some.

I'd say she's a centrist, with some progressive policies and some regressive. Just my opinion obviously.

[–] [email protected] 21 points 8 hours ago

Neither was Obama. Not long after he put a bow on the nomination, he voted for an expansive security bill. A lot of people were surprised, but not me.

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