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THE POLICE PROBLEM

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    The police problem is that police are policed by the police. Cops are accountable only to other cops, which is no accountability at all.

    99.9999% of police brutality, corruption, and misconduct is never investigated, never punished, never makes the news, so it's not on this page.

    When cops are caught breaking the law, they're investigated by other cops. Details are kept quiet, the officers' names are withheld from public knowledge, and what info is eventually released is only what police choose to release — often nothing at all.

    When police are fired — which is all too rare — they leave with 'law enforcement experience' and can easily find work in another police department nearby. It's called "Wandering Cops."

    When police testify under oath, they lie so frequently that cops themselves have a joking term for it: "testilying." Yet it's almost unheard of for police to be punished or prosecuted for perjury.

    Cops can and do get away with lawlessness, because cops protect other cops. If they don't, they aren't cops for long.

    The legal doctrine of "qualified immunity" renders police officers invulnerable to lawsuits for almost anything they do. In practice, getting past 'qualified immunity' is so unlikely, it makes headlines when it happens.

    All this is a path to a police state.

    In a free society, police must always be under serious and skeptical public oversight, with non-cops and non-cronies in charge, issuing genuine punishment when warranted.

    Police who break the law must be prosecuted like anyone else, promptly fired if guilty, and barred from ever working in law-enforcement again.

    That's the solution.

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Our definition of ‘cops’ is broad, and includes prison guards, probation officers, shitty DAs and judges, etc — anyone who has the authority to fuck over people’s lives, with minimal or no oversight.

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INFO

A demonstrator's guide to understanding riot munitions

Adultification

Cops aren't supposed to be smart

Don't talk to the police.

Killings by law enforcement in Canada

Killings by law enforcement in the United Kingdom

Killings by law enforcement in the United States

Know your rights: Filming the police

Three words. 70 cases. The tragic history of 'I can’t breathe' (as of 2020)

Police aren't primarily about helping you or solving crimes.

Police lie under oath, a lot

Police spin: An object lesson in Copspeak

Police unions and arbitrators keep abusive cops on the street

Shielded from Justice: Police Brutality and Accountability in the United States

So you wanna be a cop?

When the police knock on your door

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ORGANIZATIONS

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The Marshall Project

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NAACP

National Police Accountability Project

Say Their Names

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Lt. Matthew Furman of the Melvindale Police Department in Michigan has become the face of the kind of officer many fear—one who uses his authority to target, mistreat, and intimidate Black individuals. Despite being involved in several controversial incidents over the years, Furman has continued to rise through the ranks.

Bodycam footage paints a disturbing picture of Furman as a domineering officer who seems to take satisfaction in tasering and arresting Black citizens even when there’s no clear threat to his safety.

His internal records show a pattern of misconduct. Over the last 12 years, Furman has faced suspensions, termination, lawsuits, and even criminal charges.

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[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 week ago (4 children)

Why would you vote for Trump, if you are not Maga?

[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 week ago

"you don't understand Im a reasonable chud"

[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 week ago (2 children)

Economics and Gun Policy, a but of buyers remorse as of late but I can't change it now so I going to just bide my time and grit my teeth until next election, like I will do with all upcoming elections.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 week ago (1 children)

How's that "economics" thing working out for ya?

[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 week ago

Pretty good, my chickens are making bank

[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 week ago (1 children)

There's not going to be a next election at this rate.

You voted for fascism.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 week ago (1 children)

I'm more confused by the idea of a admitting trump voter being on Lemmy.

I mean, I'm not saying Lemmy is an isolationist platform that forbids them. But at the same time, it's kind of like going to a house party attended almost exclusively by people who hate you.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (2 children)

I'm just not afraid of bandwagoning and witch hunting, and don't really care enough to join the Fox News, X, and Daily Wire echo chamber

Plus defederated social medias are neato

[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 week ago (1 children)

I'm just not afraid of bandwagoning and witch hunting

Clearly you vote for it.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Got disillusioned in 2017/18 when I realized nothing was happening and voting trump the second time because it was better than the alternative. And I like to keep and grow my gun collection

[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 week ago (1 children)

And I like to keep and grow my gun collection

So you voted for the guy who wants to take them away illegally?

https://thehill.com/homenews/administration/376097-trump-take-the-guns-first-go-through-due-process-second/

[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 week ago (1 children)

I mean, there's no winning on that front. One guy is up front about making me a criminal, the other uses subversion and bate and switch.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 week ago (2 children)

If there is no difference on the only issue you allegedly care about, then why the hell did you vote for the monster??

[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Did you want me to vote on the other monster instead?

[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

You had the option of not voting and letting more informed people decide, at a bare minimum.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 week ago (1 children)
[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 week ago

I guess, idk what the avg age on Lemmy is

[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 week ago (1 children)

'im a Nazi but I dont wear the armband'