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Is it only ornamental? And why are they usually webbed feet (or at least they are in my experience)?

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[–] [email protected] -2 points 5 days ago (2 children)

Okay, so this got long, but only because you made so many separate points.


No one asked for a phone that doesn’t have a replaceable battery

Pretty much necessary for waterproofing, makes the design a bit simpler, and most people DGAF about e-waste.

has microbezels, is covered in glass so if you drop it you have to buy a new one, or you have to buy a case to wrap it in.

All aesthetic features that are popular, even if people aren't aware of where the wow comes from exactly.

The headphone jack is the only forced example here.

No one asked for a car that is sending all of your data to the manufacturer

You're not the customer, and most people have no problem with being the product. Which is really dumb of them, but true.

has a huge-ass touch screen that can’t be customized in any way,

It's still a new enough trend that I'm not sure where it sits, but it does come with the advantage of displaying whatever menus you want really directly.

has features that don’t work while the car is in motion,

Liability, I assume.

lets your insurance company know when you accelerate too quickly, and plays ads when you are at a stoplight.

Again, you're not the customer.

I’ve been looking at getting a new washer and even those are terrible and require connecting the appliance to a wireless network and installing an app on your phone to get full functionality.

Ditto. Most consumers either don't know/care or actually like whatever shitty "smart" feature. And aren't tracking their cybersecurity very closely.


In a nutshell:

There are VERY few manufacturers of anything out there that actually give a shit about what ~~the consumer~~ Bob Robertson and CanadaPlus really want,

[–] [email protected] 7 points 5 days ago (1 children)

Again, you’re not the customer

I don't want to create an entire thread arguing because I believe that you value your viewpoints as much as I value mine, but I think this might be the main area where our viewpoints diverge because when I'm buying something, then yes, I am the customer. And when I buy something then my expectation is that I will then own that something and I will do with it as I please.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 5 days ago* (last edited 5 days ago) (1 children)

Yeah. That wasn't a normative statement, just a descriptive one. We should be the customer, we just economically aren't. I bet you and me buy the same kind of stuff.

The points I was arguing against in OP are that everything is built worse than it used to be, and that it's because some group can just decide so unilaterally for personal gain. Some stuff is worse, some stuff is better, but it's true that regulations haven't kept pace with technology this century.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 5 days ago

Nothing you typed is true. Bob Robertson is right about every point. And I will piggyback off of him and continue to prove him right and you wrong if necessary.

Nothing is being produced for the consumer anymore. We are the Mark. I broke a little plastic gear for turning the chute on my snowblower and cannot buy a 30¢ chunk of replacement plastic. They told us the internet being recategorized as a luxury service instead of a utility service would improve service. It’s gone up in price 5-10x in the fifteen years since, Sucka. Everything is trying to transition you to a subscription service so you will own nothing and be happy, Sucka. Stop carrying water as a useful idiot, Sucka.