China today stands as the most aggressively innovative force in modern history. What truly matters isn't just the number of patents,it's the sheer volume of high-tech, cutting-edge developments they're churning out. These innovations are reshaping global industries at breakneck speed.
And soon enough, the West, clinging to its fading dominance, will have only one bitter word left to scream: "Stolen"
In fairness China steals a lot of IPs. Like lots.
https://www.cbsnews.com/news/chinese-hackers-took-trillions-in-intellectual-property-from-about-30-multinational-companies
https://saisreview.sais.jhu.edu/how-chinas-political-system-discourages-innovation-and-encourages-ip-theft/
It is does not practice full socialism, the most obvious examples are their very specific Economic Zones, where Capitalism is 100% full on practiced, for external trade. So the ports and manufacturing cities. Essentially where most of the TikTok videos of buildings lighting up at night showing ads or videos on them that you see online, that is very different than in internal cities. Since as most of anyone who has travelled to China or knows about the 'private' industry of the country, the CCP has full access to the corporate leadership and thus can control Corps by proxy. Remember when billionaare, Alibaba CEO Ma was taken down by the CCP for getting too lippy against the regime and as a show of blatant force was literally disappeared, for months? I do.
https://time.com/5926062/jack-ma/
https://www.wired.com/story/jack-ma-isnt-back/
In fact, if anything, in the aggregate, in behaviour, China with its mix of Socialism while leveraging full on selective Capitalism is far closer to practising the very defintition of National Socialism or more to the case, Facism, as seen in their actions. Even if they may claim to be Left.
Fascism: A system of government that exercises a dictatorship of the extreme right, typically through the merging of state and business leadership, together with a belligerent nationalism. The American Heritage Dictionary 1976
1992 definition from the American Heritage Dictionary (it seems very similar, but I think the rewording makes a difference - merging state and business leadership becomes stringent socioeconomic controls):
Often Fascism. (a) A system of government marked by centralization of authority under a dictator, stringent socioeconomic controls, suppression of the opposition through terror and censorship, and typically a policy of belligerent nationalism and racism. (b) A political philosophy or movement based on or advocating such a system of government. Oppressive, dictatorial control.
Here's from the 1970 Webster New Twentieth Century Dictionary (a 2000-page whale of a dictionary):
fascism
The doctrines, methods, or movement of the Fascisti. a system of government characterized by rigid one-party dictatorship, forcible suppression of the opposition (unions, other, especially other parties, minority groups, etc.) the retention of private ownership of the means of production under centralized government control, belligerent nationalism and racism, glorification of war, etc.: first instituted in Italy in 1922. (a) the political philosophy and movement based n such doctrines and policies; (b) fascist behavior. See also Nazism.
Yes, that's exactly the point. In China, capitalists have no political power, the communist party holds all the cards. That's awesome.
https://www.theguardian.com/world/2019/jul/25/china-business-xi-jinping-communist-party-state-private-enterprise-huawei
https://redsails.org/china-has-billionaires/
This definition is so broad that literally any country fits it Canada, Mexico, US, Germany, SK, France, Japan, etc... all fit this. The economy is intrinsically linked with the state, this is an absurd definition. I much prefer this one by georgi dimitrov
https://www.marxists.org/reference/archive/dimitrov/works/1935/08_02.htm
The key to understand the politics of nations is understanding which political class they serve, it is fairly obvious that in the West the state serves the capitalist class while in China it serves the people. In the West you have a carrousel of former bankers rotating the seats ffs. That is actually fascism, the open dictatorship of finance capital.
Same, it ruled. Billionaires should fear their government, not control it.
good. stealing IP is good.
Lazy copypasta. Please come up with your own comments.
i think there is a big difference between corporatism and state monopoly capitalism. maybe read actual works from economists, doesnt even have to be marxists, instead of quoting cbs news, wired, time et cetera
This is a good thing btw. Why should billionaires use their massive wealth to dictate how society ought to be run? Is Elon Musk practically running the country supposed to be a good thing to you? The CPC liquidating billionaires should not concern you no matter how you personally feel about the CPC because it's not like you voted those billionaires to be billionaires anyways.
As they say, don't let perfect be the enemy of good.
When a liberal says, "x is fascism", what they mean is "i dont like x". As liberals have shit taste, this actually means "x is awesome"
Yes. Eat shit, bourgie scum.
China can't "steal IP".
IP isn't real its a legal construct by the empire which only gets enforced inside the empire.
China is outside the empire, china's IPs get defined in china.
You’re seeing a government with actual control over its capitalists and somehow calling that fascism, which is where corporate interests pilot the government like a sock puppet. It’s a stunning misrepresentation of the facts of China and of fascism. If you want an example of naked fascism, look at Israel or the US.
You can use lots of words to criticize China, deserved or undeserved, but calling them Fascist is a joke.
I backed up my claims. Feel free to check the links I provided.
I am quoting dictionaries and providing other links, which I doubt you looked at. You have done nothing, except provide your opinion. Which albeit appreciated it is just that. In the USA and most Western countries you have Laws and court systems that are meant to counter the Federal government from abuse of power. In China you have embedded party members into companies that push Party doctrine and wishes. You and I may have a very, very different defintion of the word, "Control." One is democratic, the other, the ione practiced by the CCP is goes ibto the path of being authoritarian. By all means, do you have a good source to back up your disagreement?
I can provide more proof, Imagine Canada or Poland having party members in corporate offices. That would be weird in a democracy.
"The government and party use several approaches to secure this control and oversight of the business community. CCP cells have expanded greatly inside company headquarters. Changes in corporate governance as well as party officials placed into the corporate hierarchy have elevated the party’s role in business decisions. Government subsidies and contracts increase the private sector’s dependency on Beijing. And joint ventures and mixed-ownership investments tie private firms to state-owned enterprises. CATL exemplifies all these approaches toward the growing fusion of state and private enterprises."
https://www.cna.org/our-media/indepth/2024/09/fused-together-the-chinese-communist-party-moves-inside-chinas-private-sector
Also by the Center for Strategic and International Studies: https://www.csis.org/analysis/chinese-communist-party-targets-private-sector
"It now appears that the Party intends for similar representation within private enterprises. In a speech last month (translated here), Ye Qing, Vice Chairman of the All-China Federation of Industry and Commerce, called for building a “modern private enterprise system with Chinese characteristics.” According to Ye, this would include giving a company’s internal Party group control over the human resources decisions of the enterprise and allowing it to carry out company audits, including monitoring internal behavior. Echoing Xi’s views on SOEs, Ye also called for the Party to clarify its role in the corporate governance structure of private companies. The Party’s overall aim appears to be to ensure that a wide range of businesses are under the influence of the CCP and willing to work with it to achieve national strategic objectives.
China’s efforts to formalize CCP control of its commercial sector will have significant ramifications for international trade, forcing more liberal market economies to decide how much state intervention they are willing to tolerate in their trading partners. It will also call into question many of the existing rules and assumptions underlying the multilateral trading order. The fact that China has released this opinion at a time of heightened U.S. scrutiny over the government’s links to Huawei and TikTok suggests that China feels confident enough in its system that it is now prepared to advance and defend it on the global stage."
I mean, this is no secret.
https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=24535257
https://sayari.com/resources/chinese-communist-party-cells-in-private-companies-though-not-yet-universal-increasingly-situated-to-play-greater-roles-in-corporate-governance/
Surely those have worked out just fine against Donald Trump 😂
why?
canada and poland have corporate stooges in their political parties and in official govt positions. now THAT is "weird" in a democracy.
protect the bourgeois bloodsucker scum from the people.
who are watching the bourgeois bloodsucker scum like a hawk.
This isn't a horseshoe theory instance.
If you'd like to learn about the dictatorship of the proletariat and actually democratic forms of government, feel free to ask for help.