And always gonna be. Go cry about it some more
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As a usual defender of Discovery - I absolutely agree here. CBS clearly wanted to do a Battlestar Galactica, just in case Star Trek was over.
As much as I like Discovery, I'll admit I'm sure I would like it more if they had settled down from the constant universe ending a bit more often.
And the constant tearful goodbyes to characters that either don’t die or somehow come back from the dead.
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When they killed the cyborg girl, I felt absolutely nothing because they had spent essentially zero time on her character prior to that.I have had fun with Discovery (wrapping up season 4 on my first time through), but it’s my least favorite series so far. I don’t connect with the characters nearly as much as I’d want, and I think that’s largely because every single moment is a universe-ending crisis.
No one character’s big sacrifice to save everything has any meaning when five minutes later the universe is ending again. There isn’t space for any real happiness in the plot. They don’t really do science. The scientific explanations of things are extra goofy.
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(“The data won’t let us delete it. Guess we can’t remove our computer storage, so we’d better destroy the ship. No, wait, let’s just time travel instead using a suit that we also said was impossible to make with our technology - but we’ll make TWO of them anyway using the magic time stones!”)I very much enjoyed the Strange New Worlds cast joining the series for that season though (I wish we’d gotten some more Nurse Chapel time because I think Jess Bush is adorable.)
I like the set and costume work. I think the actors do a great job (just once I’d like to hear Doug Jones do Baron Afanas’ voice while in Saru makeup). There’s a lot to like about the show, and I think it was worth watching. I can’t see rewatching it anytime soon though.
What the fuck are you talking about? I want you to name a single tearful goodbye to someone who comes back from the dead who isn't Culber. Go ahead. I'll wait.
The only thing I can think you're remotely trying to reach for is Burnham's mother but that hardly counts when she was dead from the first episode and basically written off until Season 2.
That's the gimmick of the show. They're a rapid first response vessel to deal with imminent threats.
Question: Do character sacrifices not matter to you if its a show about special forces operators or other people who are in constant danger? Or is it just because it is Star Trek?
Not remotely true. There are not as many episodes of Discovery as there are other shows, especially per season, so fat has to be cut. There are no more filler episodes and bottle episodes like in TNG and DS9 because that's how television has evolved. Even Strange New Worlds is still pretty serialized from episode to episode, just less focused on it. But there is a fair amount of space for happiness in the show. You just don't see it as much because there isn't as much of Trek. Want examples? The dance party episode in Season 1, Burnham and Ash (until he goes insane anyway), Burnham and Book, Grudge, Tilly like 60% of the time, Stamets and Culber being on the same page partway through Season 3 onwards, Grey, Zora. Like I don't know what you're talking about at all. All of these characters grow and become far more happier than they were at the start.
That might be because they're not a science vessel that's just floating around and going to do science. Because they were not built for that. However, science is quite important to the show and comes up with constant regularity. So much treknobabble and they've even added a shit ton more. So yeah. They do science.
The Enterprise got pregnant. Crusher got fucked by a space ghost. Neural Gel Packs. Everyone being a walking carpet sample in the future. Translators being insanely inconsistent and work by unexplained magic. Heisenberg Compensator. I'm sorry dude, but Star Trek explanations are goofy as fuck. There is nothing about Discovery explanations that could be ANY more goofy than this bullshit: