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[–] [email protected] 130 points 1 month ago (11 children)

the biggest problem I have with switching is that Google Maps is a business directory. open street maps is empty where i live. it works okay for navigation, but not so much for finding a coffee.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 month ago (1 children)

You can add the POIs and fill the gaps!

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (1 children)

And then in the web app, you need to do this complicated hold-LMB-then-select-from-list to select something, making just browsing really difficult.

Or is there a better way of doing that? I lack a good way to just browse Openstreetmap.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 month ago

openstreetmap.org is a mappers website, not a map users website. It works great for mappers, but is horrible for people who want to use the map to find their way around.

I think the openstreetmap ecosystem really needs a better website for map users.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 1 month ago

I felt the same however Organic Maps did have many businesses. And with Street Complete I can correct any errors when I visit.

It may simply be my area, but I so recommend organic maps over Osmand for business and POI lookups

[–] [email protected] 50 points 1 month ago (2 children)

there are ways to make it easier; it's been gamified:

https://github.com/streetcomplete/StreetComplete

Available on FDROID.

When my partner stops to play pokemon go, I complete some Open Street Map info quests...

[–] [email protected] 14 points 1 month ago (2 children)

Street Complete is a great app for quests regarding existing features, but also consider the feature might not exist at all yet in OSM.

Map Complete is great for adding new features. It also asks a bunch of optional simple questions about the feature which gets converted into the relevant OSM tags. It's browser based but you can just add a shortcut to your home screen to have it quickly accessible.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 1 month ago

@controlphreak @snrkl
Now that StreetComplete has overlay layers for places and things you can add most of the thing you'd want to add in person.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 month ago

I didn't know about map complete, thanks!

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 month ago

I've just installed this now, thanks for the tip!

So many quests right on my street!

[–] [email protected] 34 points 1 month ago (1 children)

As many have already told you, you can contribute to OSM, I have put in it almost all the establishments in my area (Not at Big area but...). Although soon I have to update them

[–] [email protected] 11 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (1 children)

im on board with the idea in general, but im not going to do this. it would be an endless effort to the benefit of almost nobody. places go up and down so fast here that google maps is often out of date too. it's filled with stale information and im flagging missing places constantly. every digital community in this country is a garbage pile.

the ride share apps here do use open street maps though, and im making corrections to building addresses when i find something isn't right. it's great.

[–] [email protected] 31 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (1 children)

Umm...it benefits loads of people.

On OSM you don't have to just flag something. You can edit it directly, so it leads to more accurate information.

[–] [email protected] 16 points 1 month ago (1 children)

But you can also just flag it if editing is not your cup of tea. Here's a convenient, non-techy tool to add notes for others to use when editing: https://www.onosm.org/

[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 month ago
[–] [email protected] 32 points 1 month ago (1 children)

You can contribute them!

There's a pretty barebones editor in Organic Maps, but you can also check out Street Complete and Every door (more advanced and less user friendly, though insanely efficient)

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 month ago (1 children)

I use Vespucci, it's advanced but still pretty easy if you just want to do basic editing. https://vespucci.io/

P.s. how do you link to an app on fdroid?

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 month ago (1 children)
[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 month ago

Thanks. I wish the link could be created from the f-droid automatically. I'm too lazy to try to paste the parts together

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 month ago (1 children)

i think openstreetmaps only works in big countries honestly

[–] [email protected] -2 points 1 month ago (1 children)

What does the size of the country have to do with it? Which good big and bad small countries are you talking about?

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 month ago (3 children)

Most people don't use openstreetmaps on these small countries like with low/medium population it feels like apple maps on there

[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 month ago (1 children)

@Mwa @joostjakob

Apple Maps uses OpenStreetMap data on n some countries.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 month ago

ohh makes sense

[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Can you give an example? Because I've just looked at Luxembourg, Nepal, and Aruba, and they're all littered with named buildings and landmarks. Pyongyang even has a fair bit filled in.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (1 children)

didnt rlly try it but might try tbh but idk since i see people here where i live use google maps

edit: tried it and it really is quite outdated my house does not show up and idk if waze is even privacy respecting

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Waze is google these days. They bought it some time ago.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 month ago (1 children)

All it takes is you to fix this. Its even easier in a small country

[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 month ago
[–] [email protected] 5 points 1 month ago (1 children)

That kind of contribution seems like a lower level of effort than making changes to source code.

[–] [email protected] 16 points 1 month ago

And there are apps that make it very very easy and fun. Check out street complete.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 1 month ago

I keep businesses in my area up-to-date, doesn't take much time at all.

[–] [email protected] 9 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Same issue here. I really like their maps in general, but my local area in OSM is about a decade out of date

[–] [email protected] 13 points 1 month ago

Yeah, it's interesting to look through the edit history over the years. With StreetComplete I recently fixed ~8 stores that were many years out of date, during an hour walk.

It's fun to find a real hole-in-the-wall that even google maps doesn't have.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 month ago (2 children)

Yeah trying to find anything on any of the competing apps is basically impossible. I mean ffs OSMand literally couldn't do address lookup!

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 month ago

I just recently learned this.

For OsmAnd, go to search, then the categories tab, and then hit "Online Search".

Voila, address lookup.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 month ago (1 children)

I have found Organic Map's search to be far better than OSMand. OSMand has far more features though.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 month ago

You'll need to first download the relevant section of the map downloaded to be able to search it, though.

[–] [email protected] 48 points 1 month ago (2 children)
[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 month ago (1 children)
[–] [email protected] 9 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

Oh weird. That's shared from droid-ify which is an f-droid client.

Here's the proper link https://f-droid.org/en/packages/de.westnordost.streetcomplete/index.html

[–] [email protected] 17 points 1 month ago (3 children)

It says “page not found”, maybe because I'm not in EU.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 month ago

Very strange. It doesn't work. I shared directly from the f-droid client droid-ify

https://f-droid.org/en/packages/de.westnordost.streetcomplete/index.html

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 month ago
[–] [email protected] 8 points 1 month ago (1 children)

I'm in the US, also says page not found for me.

[–] [email protected] 27 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

Yea looks like they were linking to this: Street Complete