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[–] [email protected] 41 points 6 days ago (3 children)

Honestly, seriously. Would harm reduction have happened if Kamala was elected. Yes. Did I personally core for her? Yes.

Did this get them elected? No? Shut the fuck up and stop blaming voters because the Democrats don't know how to do politics on purpose so they don't lose their bribes.

Want a better analogy? There's a bus driving for a cliff and one group votes to minimize the impact of driving off the cliff while another group says please please drive faster off the cliff and do a backflip. A third group says guys, can we perhaps maybe not drive off the cliffd? And the rest call them insane and drive off the cliff

[–] [email protected] 1 points 6 days ago* (last edited 6 days ago) (1 children)

Bad ice ream is still better than driving off a cliff. You can tell me all day how bad the ice cream is and how shitty the place is because they don't even try to make good ice cream, they don't even try to get customers or do a good job. It's still better than driving off a cliff. I wouldn't blame the ice cream store for making shitty when people choose not to vote for it. They knew the alternative and still decided to leave it up to fate.

Sure, a nice ice cream shop is easier to get people to vote on, but when the alternative is going off a cliff, the ice cream is kind of a moot point. But sure, let's blame the ice cream shop for not being attractive enough when anything but going off the cliff should be the obvious choice. Yes, the ice cream shop could have made it easier, but any sane person can see she obvious choice.

Let's put it this way. If one side is saying they will kill everyone who isn't straight and white, and the other side says they want to ban gay marriage. Now I think queer rights is really important but I would vote for the second to prevent the firsr. But people seem to be screaming "I'm never voting against gay rights!" Cool, so when the other guy wins and it's way worse, at least you feel good.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 5 days ago (2 children)

I keep voting for ice cream and I get told "we can't get ice cream because we have to vote to not go off a cliff again"

[–] [email protected] 2 points 4 days ago (1 children)

Yeah, I think not going off a cliff is pretty important though.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 4 days ago (1 children)

Right, but eventually the cliff guys win and we go off the cliff anyway, and even if they never win we don’t ever get ice cream.

The solution seems we kick them out of the car.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago) (1 children)

But that's not how voting for a direction works. I think this analogy is just starting to fall apart after this much discussion, we've taken it too far haha.

Listen, I'm all for taking out the trash and not just taking small wins to survive, but I just don't see the path. I might be missing it, there's plenty I don't know, but survival at least would have let us survive a little longer.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 3 days ago

I don’t see the path out of just surviving either.

Except maybe jumping out of the car.

Tuck and roll, brother

[–] [email protected] 1 points 5 days ago

You get ice cream, just not as much as you want because some people refuse to vote.

[–] [email protected] 18 points 6 days ago (2 children)

I blame both. The Democratic Party and everybody who did not vote for them. My heart is big, there is enough room to hate everyone!

[–] [email protected] 1 points 5 days ago

Do you think Republican politics have the slightest responsibilities or none at all? I think all this thread, and the analogy itself plays into polarization, which is not a good way to actually put the much needed bridges... Everyone can do a lot. There are plenty of tasks and battles. Voting is one, very relevant every X many years. Focus on the everyday too. And on every neighbor. All needs should be covered. Do your best. Allow yourself to rest. We can do this.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 6 days ago

That's the spirit!