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The Reverend Sue Parfitt, from Bristol, was detained for holding a placard that read: “I oppose genocide. I support Palestine Action.” She was among more than 27 people arrested on Saturday for acts of defiance against the proscription.

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[–] [email protected] 0 points 6 days ago* (last edited 6 days ago) (5 children)

They're calling these people terrorists for holding signs calling for the end of Israel's genocide. They're not calling the people who have been committing genocide every day terrorists: they're valuable allies. This is the UK Government's morality. I hope it's not shared by the British people.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 5 days ago

What if it is an excuse to put people that openly oppose colonialism and authority under control and fear? They maybe don't care that much for Israel but why miss this opportunity?

[–] [email protected] 0 points 6 days ago (2 children)

No they're not. There's a difference between "Palestine Action" (the group) and "actions and other stuff in favour of Palestine". The former has been banned, the latter has not. Protesting is legal in the UK; vandalising Air Force equipment is not.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 6 days ago (1 children)

Damaging equipment that is being used to conduct genocide is not vandalism, it's human fucking decency.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 5 days ago (2 children)

True, but I wasn't aware that the RAF are currently flying sorties into any ongoing genocide.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 5 days ago (1 children)

https://www.bbc.com/news/articles/ceqg440v0gxo

They are not doing the bombing in Gaza. They are protecting the ones doing the bombing in Gaza.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 5 days ago (2 children)

You might want to re-read that article. It doesn't mention Gaza once. Here are some quotes:

"fighting between Israel and Iran"
"protect UK personnel and bases in the Middle East"
"we've never been involved in attacking with Israel"
"we've got assets out there they need to be protected given Iran has suggested they might be under threat"

[–] [email protected] 0 points 5 days ago* (last edited 5 days ago)

Oh I'm sorry, I thought the recent moves deepening the existing framework was proof enough. You want to go back instead.

Let's try this one: https://aje.io/78f3r5

[–] [email protected] 0 points 5 days ago

how dare you bring logic to a circlejerk

[–] [email protected] 0 points 6 days ago

Polling consistently shows disapproval for Israeli actions in Gaza.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 6 days ago* (last edited 6 days ago) (3 children)

Technically it's because some members of the group trespassed in a military base and vandalised an airplane. Which is trespassing and vandalism. Not terrorism. Unless Starmer has been watching too much Thomas & the Friends and Pixar's Cars and believes that the poor planes can't sleep at night anymore, because they are terrified.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 5 days ago

"We're civilised people, we can excuse genocide, but throwing paint and saying mean words is a step too far."

[–] [email protected] 0 points 5 days ago

Also, even if a few members organize themselves to do that, that doesn't mean the entire organization supports it or is behind it.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 5 days ago (3 children)

Some definitions of Terrorism also include property damage

[–] [email protected] 0 points 5 days ago (1 children)
[–] [email protected] 0 points 5 days ago* (last edited 5 days ago)

On the outside of the engine I agree.

On the inside there are moving parts that probably don't like increased friction, so they probably have to take the whole thing apart to remove the paint.

It's still not really destruction of property.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 5 days ago (1 children)

Well definitions can include anything and everything. They can also be debased to the point of being useless, or in the case of crimes of being the engine of witch hunts.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 5 days ago

I do not believe inanimate objects can experience terror, so I also don't agree with the definition. But I don't write the laws.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 6 days ago