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Tone it down a bit. Most of us didn't vote for him, if only because a significant chunk simply didn't vote.
But "bitch" is a bit beyond the pale for Beehaw. That's objectively not Beeing Nice.
I think the world as a whole is done with being nice about Americans. Patience thoroughly depleted. Frustration to the fore. Could almost have pretended The West Wing wasn’t just a Hollywood cokehead’s fantasy, but not any more.
If you want to shit on America the country, I'm with you. I could hardly disagree with the top comment in this chain; America is, after all, racist, bigoted and fascist right now. The nation, and especially the government, deserve all the vitriol.
But please don't shit on Americans writ large. Too many of us hate this just as much as you do, and we really don't appreciate being lumped in with those who enabled it.
You are literally lumped in with them
I honestly have no idea how to respond to this. Did you read my comment and its context? Because I can't figure out what point you're even trying to make, so it really feels like you didn't.
You're giving off I'm not like other Americans vibes, I don't respect it lol
Well, considering I never voted for Trump, am against bigotry in all its forms, don't want to deport people for having the wrong skin color, believe that free healthcare is a human right, hate capitalism, etc... I don't think it's unfair to say that I very much am not like the fascists currently in power or the people who voted for them at all.
How is it fair to criticize me as though I'm the same as them when I'm fighting against them? Does my being born here somehow make me deserving of scorn?
You're being scorned right now? Because some guy said he doesn't trust Americans to form a competent government and I said you're an American? Get real man, this is the exact American exceptionalism everyone is sick of.
Not what he said.
Not what you said.
You don't seem to have an interest in understanding the impact of your own words, either before posting them or afterwards. No point in talking, then.
When a majority of Americans vote for fascism, that makes America a fascist nation. You may be a nice guy but you're not in the majority, so you're not representative of this country.
As for being nice, why should I be nice with this piece of refuse human being?
OK, so. A majority of Americans did not do so. Grossly simplified, one-third did, one-third didn't, and one-third stayed home. If you're being fed the line that a majority of voters wanted Trump, it simply isn't true. Millions stayed on the sidelines because of Gaza and feeling like there was no point (which, in many states, there isn't; there are like seven where your vote matters).
You don't have to be nice to her. But how often have you seen "bitch" used as a pure pejorative on Beehaw? Consider your audience.
The majority of voters maybe voted for trump but the majority of Americans did not. The people that didn't voted are a lot. Only 64% voted in 2024. https://www.pewresearch.org/politics/2025/06/26/voter-turnout-2020-2024/
It doesn't matter. You can't cherry-pick. A majority of Germans also didn't vote for Hitler, yet it was called "Nazi Germany" after the election and nobody denies it on the basis that he didn't get the absolute majority of the votes.
America voted for fascism. I don't care if only a third of Americans are actively fascist, another third stayed home like the fat lazy slobs they are, and the remaining third lost to the first one: the net result is a fascist America.
Still, we don't condemn the German victims of Nazis for fascism. We don't condemn the French resistance for Vichy France. There's a real resistance movement in America. Support it.
I'm not condemning anything or anybody. There are plenty of good Americans in Trump's Nazi America like there were plenty of good Germans in Hitler's Nazi Germany. But good minorities in fascist countries don't make those countries any less fascist.
It does when they rise up and get their scalps.
That means 36% of eligible voters passively support fascism.
"How could people let the nazis take over Germany?" Gee, I wonder.
“I will NEVER co-sign a genocide,” they said, and got really condescending about how pure they were being, by refusing to vote to keep Trump out of power.