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Really? That's your go-to glib answer? No discussion about education opportunities or job prospects? No question about why the downturn was really noted in 2014? Just immediately jumping to the conclusion that rural people MUST be hateful?
Disappointing.
That was true of the small Ohio town I grew up in. Tons of anti-semitism, racism, hatred of non-straights, hatred of non-christians, etc. Most of the jobs were in agriculture and manufacturing. I no longer live in the US but, if I had to move back, I don't think you could pay me enough to live in that place again.
Uhhhhh, I don't care much for their response either but like a solid 80% of rural houses are flying trump flags, even in states like new york. You can pretty safely assume that old rural people are hateful.
When someone shows you who they are, believe them the first time...and every time after.
These assholes don't change.
I left because of the bigotry and hate. I work remotely and don't have kids. That is the only thing stopping me.
Diversity leads to education opportunities and jobs. Hate and discrimination are the reason there are no jobs and shitty education. Please stop white washing our society. The hate is a cancer.
Look I'm from such a small Pennsylvania town. Rural Appalachian. Coal mines and specialty steel production most notably.
Both of you are right, and the problems feed back into each other to some extent.
After my family migrated west more than a decade ago, every single time we go back to PA to visit family, attend a funeral and so forth — it just keeps looking more and more run down. Honestly the place is a shit-hole nowadays. I'm sad to see my old county went for Trump by 70%. You couldn't pay me enough to move my family back.
The young, educated, smart, and compassionate folks leave and GTFO asap — both for jobs, and for more diversity and tolerance. The sad part is I remember watching a slew of documentaries in the early 2000s forewarning of what would happen to these small-towns...
No doubt these communities feel the pressures they're complaining about; they've just been exploited by right-wing media about who is responsible: the southern migrant more desperate than them, the trans, the homosexuals, the liberals, etc...
@FlyingSquid is also right that there is FAR more bigotry among these communities as well; and that ties back to not being well-traveled, our education system collapsing, and the right-wing fearmongering machine.
Edit: Shit, Inside Out 3 should be about being inside the head of a MAGA supporter.
Knocked it out of the park with this comment.
Sincerely,
Someone originally from the same town as you, basically.
Pixar doesn't make horror movies.
It would just be five Rage characters screaming at each other.
This thread is filled with close minded, bigoted people shitting on people for being close minded and bigoted. It would be funny if it wasn't so terribly tragic.
But you seem new here. This is pretty typical for Lemmy. So I guess I should say welcome. Lol
The defence against your claim is the Tolerance Paradox
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Paradox_of_tolerance
I'm not saying to be tolerant of intolerance. This thread is filled with people shitting on people from rural areas, and being extremely prejudiced.
The existence of close minded, bigoted people automatically renders them in violation of just about every societal norm and contract.
Punching a racist/homophobe/terf/Mazi is always justified. Their existence is a threat to others because of their beliefs.
Would you tell an abused spouse to tolerate or be less close minded about being hit or emotionally abused?
Go f off with your fence sitting.
You're confusing my lack of a double standard with fence sitting.
One person being bigoted and close minded doesn't preclude other people from also being bigoted and close minded.
I could be a racist piece of shit and drop the n word. If a black person then turns around and calls all white people racist pieces of shit, we're both bigots.
I'm not tolerating bigotry, I'm calling it all out. It's you, right here, that's defending bigotry. Not me.
Except... 2 people being assholes when the power dynamic is still very stilted is NOT a level playing field. Context matters. You're not some enlightened sigma with this hot take.
Suffer a few generations of systemic oppression and you might get the parity you think you have
I didn't say the playing field was level; I understand that I've been granted many benefits due to my race and sex.
I said they are both bigots. Are you really arguing that a black guy saying all white people are pieces of shit is not a bigot?
But youre analog doesnt working with most social bigotries. There arent many folks who are say gay or trans who hate cis or straught folks. Sure an antifascist may want to set a Nazi on fire and watch them slowly die, but the track record of fascists as a whole is covered in so much blood ya cant see a record.
The closest ya may get is someone like myself who hates say the Seventh Day Adventist to the point that it seems like bigotry, but even then bigotry is usually irrational I hate them because of a long list of slights both big and small against my family going back a hundred years. Also theyre cultists.
Ya aint calling out a double standard, tolerance is a social contract if broken civility is right out. When we dont have civility we have savager, the rules of savagery is violence be it social, verbal, economic, psychological, or physical.
You're right, it's probably one of those rural Republican-voting towns full of residents who love queer people and migrants.