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Why is Lemmygrad hated in the wider space of Lemmy? (lemm.ee)
submitted 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago) by [email protected] to c/[email protected]
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I've been trying to find a good Marxist instance, but Lemmygrad and Hexbear are widely hated. Why is that? Are there any good leftist instances?

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[โ€“] [email protected] -2 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago) (2 children)

Feels like ad hominem. The point is that you are unwilling to even engage with the idea that Russia seeks to eliminate Ukrainian identity, an idea which is reported by a number of primary Russian sources in a variety of media. Putin himself expresses frequent open skepticism of Ukrainian nationality. Not to even mention the internationally recognized mass deportation of children.

I won't argue that Israel isn't an apartheid state engaging in collective punishment. Meanwhile you will turn yourself in circles to defend Russian aggression, and for the life of me I can figure out what that has to do with liberating workers. It just feels less like intellectual honesty and more like campism. But then somehow I'm the brainwashed goon for actually attempting to maintain something resembling ideological consistency.

[โ€“] [email protected] 1 points 11 months ago

The point is that you are unwilling to even engage with the idea that Russia seeks to eliminate Ukrainian identity

Is that like a litmus test? Next time I'm ordering pizza I'll ask the restaurant if they are willing to engage with the idea that Russia seeks to eliminate Ukrainian identity.

Literally no idea why you brought that up again lol

[โ€“] [email protected] 1 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago)

unwilling to even engage with the idea that Russia seeks to eliminate Ukrainian identity

Camarada Forte did engage with this argument. The person who created this supposed dossier dictating Russia's desire to destroy the Ukrainian identity has no direct link to the Russian government.

You need evidence we can engage with. We cannot meaningfully engage with empty platitudes.

Meanwhile you will turn yourself in circles to defend Russian aggression

Do you know what was going on in eastern Ukraine, beginning in 2014? Pretty similar to what's going on in Gaza right now. Hint: it was not Russian artillery leveling homes, schools, and hospitals.

But then somehow Iโ€™m the brainwashed goon for actually attempting to maintain something resembling ideological consistency.

Awfully defensive there, bud. Speaking of ad hominem. ๐Ÿ™„