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[โ€“] [email protected] 1 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago) (1 children)

The article was written by Timofei Sergeitsev, a Russian "philosopher" with no direct link to the government. The article in the website you linked was written in early April 2022, very early after the war, when no one knew what to expect. It was claimed it was "proof" the Russians was intending to genocide Ukrainians.

More than a year later, have we seen anything like it? Have we seen active actions from the Russians to consistently destroy civilian buildings and systematically cause civilian casualties on purpose? I at least haven't, unless we are talking about a completely different war which I'm not aware. I don't excuse the Russians of anything, I'm sticking with the facts. The Russians have been very careful not to cause non-military casualties, which is extremely odd for a genocidal regime.

So, in short, it's your article written by a guy with no links to the government vs. what the actual war itself shows in practice. I prefer to see what practice shows us.

[โ€“] [email protected] -2 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago) (2 children)

Feels like ad hominem. The point is that you are unwilling to even engage with the idea that Russia seeks to eliminate Ukrainian identity, an idea which is reported by a number of primary Russian sources in a variety of media. Putin himself expresses frequent open skepticism of Ukrainian nationality. Not to even mention the internationally recognized mass deportation of children.

I won't argue that Israel isn't an apartheid state engaging in collective punishment. Meanwhile you will turn yourself in circles to defend Russian aggression, and for the life of me I can figure out what that has to do with liberating workers. It just feels less like intellectual honesty and more like campism. But then somehow I'm the brainwashed goon for actually attempting to maintain something resembling ideological consistency.

[โ€“] [email protected] 1 points 11 months ago

The point is that you are unwilling to even engage with the idea that Russia seeks to eliminate Ukrainian identity

Is that like a litmus test? Next time I'm ordering pizza I'll ask the restaurant if they are willing to engage with the idea that Russia seeks to eliminate Ukrainian identity.

Literally no idea why you brought that up again lol

[โ€“] [email protected] 1 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago)

unwilling to even engage with the idea that Russia seeks to eliminate Ukrainian identity

Camarada Forte did engage with this argument. The person who created this supposed dossier dictating Russia's desire to destroy the Ukrainian identity has no direct link to the Russian government.

You need evidence we can engage with. We cannot meaningfully engage with empty platitudes.

Meanwhile you will turn yourself in circles to defend Russian aggression

Do you know what was going on in eastern Ukraine, beginning in 2014? Pretty similar to what's going on in Gaza right now. Hint: it was not Russian artillery leveling homes, schools, and hospitals.

But then somehow Iโ€™m the brainwashed goon for actually attempting to maintain something resembling ideological consistency.

Awfully defensive there, bud. Speaking of ad hominem. ๐Ÿ™„