Ask Lemmy
A Fediverse community for open-ended, thought provoking questions
Please don't post about US Politics. If you need to do this, try [email protected]
Rules: (interactive)
1) Be nice and; have fun
Doxxing, trolling, sealioning, racism, and toxicity are not welcomed in AskLemmy. Remember what your mother said: if you can't say something nice, don't say anything at all. In addition, the site-wide Lemmy.world terms of service also apply here. Please familiarize yourself with them
2) All posts must end with a '?'
This is sort of like Jeopardy. Please phrase all post titles in the form of a proper question ending with ?
3) No spam
Please do not flood the community with nonsense. Actual suspected spammers will be banned on site. No astroturfing.
4) NSFW is okay, within reason
Just remember to tag posts with either a content warning or a [NSFW] tag. Overtly sexual posts are not allowed, please direct them to either [email protected] or [email protected].
NSFW comments should be restricted to posts tagged [NSFW].
5) This is not a support community.
It is not a place for 'how do I?', type questions.
If you have any questions regarding the site itself or would like to report a community, please direct them to Lemmy.world Support or email [email protected]. For other questions check our partnered communities list, or use the search function.
Reminder: The terms of service apply here too.
Partnered Communities:
Logo design credit goes to: tubbadu
view the rest of the comments
Just startend one piece, what exactly do you mean?
"I'm not a hero, I don't want to be one, I want to be a pirate"
does practically everything a hero would do in every situation
queue morbillion comments about peak fiction writing.
Well then you haven't been paying attention. His ideal of a pirate comes from a red haired guy with high values not from those who pillage, kill and steal for fun. And he rarely goes out of his way to help some rando. Every time he has helped someone, it's because he considered them a friend or they helped luffy first out of their kindness. He's just paying back their kindness. If it involves saving a burning Kingdom for a friend who happens to be its princess, then so be it.
Nothing heroic about it. Even villains help their friends. I won't say it's peak fiction. But it's pretty close to it.
And
This dude is a 1:1 match for the hero archetype lol. Name one example where Luffy decided not to help or choose a mutually beneficial solution to another character that he liked. Helping only friends and kind doesn't make you any less of a hero.
There's nothing wrong with following the archetype, it's actually a sign of good story writing.
But having him say "I'm not a hero" every five seconds is annoying as hell and feels like shoehorned dialogue that doesn't go anywhere or build on anything.
Your statement of what a hero does is more like a protagonist's definition.
Regarding the characteristics of a hero, which you stated, that can also be applied to a villain. A villain can have the same traits except his sense of right and wrong is twisted or flawed. Tragic villains are often born because they were the unheard or defenceless. So now they will become the voice of the unheard.
My definition of a hero is someone who puts their own well-being far below than others'. Someone who will go out of his way to save a stranger whom he has never seen before. Someone who just keeps giving and giving until there's nothing left. A selfless, kind, naive person. Superman is what I'd call a hero.
Luffy isn't one. Yes he has a sense of right and wrong and is kind. But he's selfish. He will beat anyone who stands in his way of achieving his dream. He has multiple times puts his crew in a pinch(because of stupidity) or state of financial ruin(by eating whole rations or spending all their hard earned fortune on parties).
And I've only heard him say I'm not a hero once or twice. But what he does say often is he want to be a pirate King.
You don’t like it that the character says he does not want to be something that he is?