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[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 week ago (7 children)

I always find it odd that posts like this get any downvotes at all. Like, are people really that in love with Windows and or Microsoft?

[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 week ago (1 children)

I imagine the downvotes are backlash against all the people who convince themselves that Linux is the only viable solution regardless of use case or workflow. There are definitely loads of people in the Linux community and the open source community in general who will pick a piece of software and proselytize it with no consideration whatsoever whether it fits someone's actual needs. Like, personally, I like Linux but there are things I need to do that require me to have Windows. For some people this fact is absolutely unacceptable and they simply won't hear it.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 week ago (2 children)

What can't you do on Linux that keeps you on Windows or Mac?

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 week ago (1 children)

photoshop, multiplayer games, excel specific macros, 99% of the accounting programs, drivers wificard soundcards, multimonitor support that doesnt shits itself within 10 seconds...2 years ago i tried mint, ubuntu, manjaro, they all failed.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 week ago (1 children)

2 years is a long time. Driver issues are few and far between these days. Multi monitor support has greatly improved as well. I can't help you with your software requirements if you're stuck using proprietary programs like Photoshop. I can tell you that as a professional graphic designer and illustrator the alternatives to "industry standard" software are powerful and arguably better (Inkscape) on the Linux side. It does take time and effort to retrain years of shortcuts and workflow experience, but it's definitely doable.

Maybe one day when you're feeling adventurous give Linux another shot. I know for a lot of people the ethics of open source vs closed aren't really important, but it's still fun to see what else is out there.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 week ago (1 children)

i see now. you just love to be downvoted.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 week ago

Why? I thought it was a pretty reasonable reply.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (1 children)
  • Voicemeeter and Virtual Audio Cables for separate audio channels with separate volume controls, macro keys, and easily adjustable toggling between outputs (more easily adjustable and less latency than JACK)
  • Eartrumpet for easy and immediate per-program control over audio channels
  • FL Studio
  • Adobe Premiere
  • MX Ergo drivers that have full functionality including remapping and holding down mouse 4 and mouse 5 and toggleable precision mode with LED indicator
  • No sudden troubleshooting mid-way through working on projects to break my flow
  • A Windows testing environment
  • 100% compatibility with every game I own

There may be a few more, but these are the big ones. JACK, at the moment, just isn't a replacement for Voicemeeter and while there are some DAWs for Linux, they're not FL and I don't know if they're compatible with Guitar Rig. I've used OpenShot for video as well, and while it's not terrible it isn't really comparable.

I'm sure that Linux is a good fit for many users. Personally, as an operating system alone if it weren't for these issues, I'd prefer it. I'd love to be able to do what I need to do and also have a plasma, it's much nicer. But at the moment it isn't a real option without sacrificing things that I actually need. I also really can't be dealing with suddenly needing to sort out how to make a finicky program work at the drop of a hat when I'm in the middle of working on a project.

I've been dabbling with Linux since the early 00s. I like it and I wish it were a substitute for Windows for my use case, but it isn't. No amount of people being rude and obtuse in threads will change that. Time might, but it hasn't yet.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Ah I see. Pipewire has made audio production a lot easier with far fewer latency issues. I know the FL Studio crowd is pretty diehard, but if you're ever feeling adventurous there's a lot more in the audio space now. I personally use Reaper to record my guitar through my Audient interface and have no issues. I'm not much of a beats and loops guy though so YMMV.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 week ago (2 children)

Does it have separate audio channels and input/output controls with volume sliders and hotkeys? That would still leave a few other issues, but progress is progress and I do like to keep myself aware of the options so that I'll know when it finally ticks all the boxes.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

I use pipewire with Ardour and Neural DSP VSTs (over wine) with zero issues on EndeavourOS. I really hadn't expected that. Now, I generally just use this stuff to not have to buy many physical pedals so I rarely do recording, but that has worked as well.

You seem to be way more advanced than me in that regard, so I can't say if it would work for you, but it was so much easier and better than when I tried the same thing years ago. I'd suspect that GuitarRig works as well, though I haven't tried. I may just do so this weekend, but can't promise.

I have GuitarPro running with wine as well.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 week ago

I'm not sure I understand the question. Pipewire is the audio server, replacing Pulse. It does have frontends that allow routing from different devices, channels, software etc and distributions that are using Pipewire now have interface elements that allow you to control application use of audio devices. I'm not sure I answered your question at all lol.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 week ago

I downvoted it.

For starters I've seen this exact post a few times over the past 3 months in this community.

Secondly, the comments go exactly the same in these threads:

  1. "linux can do everything, no faults at all, windows sucks"
  2. "but I use windows for x and y and linux can't do it"
  3. "how dare you insult linux, you should not be doing x and y, just do it with this app (which is completely inferior)"

Next, windows does everything I want it to do, I disabled and uninstalled everything I didn't want easily through settings & group policy, and it hasn't bothered me since.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Because the people that would or can switch would already switch after it's been posted for the 1000th time. It's not realistic because the vast majority of people simply don't care. People hate windows updates enough as it is, to most average people this is good news.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 week ago

Not caring is why these corporations have the power they do.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Because mass recommending Linux to people with absolutely no nuance whatsoever is exactly why Linux users are seen as obnoxious and annoying. Not only does the website make no attempt to properly explain Linux it doesn't clearly outline its usecase. Its the very definition of the Linux user stereotype, blasted right in front of your face, reposted everywhere, and with a simple INSTALL LINUX and EVEYONE CAN INSTALL LINUX.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 week ago (1 children)

The first paragraphs on https://endof10.org/ tell you why you should install Linux followed by telling you how to get in touch with someone who can explain things to you and even install it for you. Most of them do it free of charge. I'm not sure how you can improve on that.

[–] [email protected] -1 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

Because theyre eithet vauge, blatant lies, or not something people care about:

No New Hardware, No Licensing Costs

Most people are willing to buy new hardware, and nobody pays for a Windows key tbh. Even if they did it would be a free upgrade from 10 to 11. Also the terminology is very enterprise focused and objectively some distros (ex REHL) are paid.

Enhanced Privacy

Once again not something people strictly care about. In addition if you use Linux exactly like Windows with Chrome, Whatsapp, Discord and other non privacy respecting apps you're not improving your privacy by much.

Good For The Planet

The implication that carbon emissions is something an individual can do something about has been objectively disproven. For any meaningful change you need societal change from the top (especially corporations and rich people).

Community & Professional Support

Online Linux forums and chats especially for new people can be extremely overwhelming. Especially when a Windows user comes in and asks why something isnt exactly like Windows. Also once again movements like this is why people dont like the Linux community.

Better User Control

Most new Linux users not only wont use them but especially in KDE software will actively be overwhelmed by the amount of options and menus. Additionally what this critically leaves out is the fact that more advanced customization requires more skill and experience the more advanced it is. There is a clear skill difference from installing a widget in KDE Plasma to compling and installing a custom kernel.

Now lets talk about the things they should have mentioned:

  1. Less commercial software: adobe especially but most professional grade editing software for both video and photo does not support Linux (yes I know Davinchi resolve technically does but the Linux version is so awful you might as well not use it)
  2. Linux is not Windows or MacOS: Linux does its own thing, sometimes this is good sometimes bad sometimes its highly debatable (and Linux users will debate it). Because of that if you expect to use Linux exactly like Windows you'll get confused and frustrated.
  3. Package managers: Almost every major DE has a graphical package manager frontend, this is a good thing and should be talked about.
  4. Desktop Environments: Show what they look like, KDE Plasma and Gnome. It should be explained their differnces and who they're made for.
  5. Distros: Explain a few of the most common distros and who they're made for. Debian is the most stable but gets few updates, OpenSuse tumbleweed is bleeding edge, Fedora gets updates once every few months, Arch is unstable and not reccomended for beginners, Pop_OS is great for gaming (see ProtonDB for compatibility)
[–] [email protected] 6 points 1 week ago (1 children)

It's because we've seen this post 1000 times

[–] [email protected] -2 points 1 week ago

and yet you persist. why?

(sorry, this is totally a troll)

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 week ago (1 children)

It's because LINUX LINUX LINUX LINUX LINUX LINUX LINUX LINUX LINUX LINUX LINUX LINUX LINUX LINUX LINUX LINUX LINUX LINUX LINUX LINUX LINUX LINUX LINUX LINUX LINUX LINUX LINUX LINUX LINUX LINUX LINUX LINUX LINUX LINUX LINUX

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 week ago
[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 week ago (1 children)

It's getting downvoted because it's not realistic.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 week ago (2 children)

I thought so too, largely on the basis of some very bad experiences with ubuntu-based distributions (they seem to hate my bog-standard RTX3060 GPU for whatever reason), but in frustration I tried one last time to install a linux distro and went with something based on fedora and it has 95% just worked, it's been great. I haven't booted up windows in almost 3 weeks, all my games work (battle.net was a bit of a pain to get working), the proprietary windows software I use for work runs great in wine, etc. I'm at the point now where I'm transferring all my files off of NTFS partitions and reformatting them to btrfs and integrating them into the linux filesystem, cause I'm done with windows forever to the greatest possible extent that I can be.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 week ago

Nvidia Linux drivers are still kinda iffy these days but so are the Windows ones too

[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 week ago

I am greatful that Ubuntu ended up bringing the Linux desktop into the general publics eye, but at the same time out of all of the popular distro's today, I firmly believe there is always a better choice than Ubuntu for any user, new or veteran. It's just a pity that they are the most well known to people who aren't familiar with Linux while not being good at anything, although basically any Linux distro feels like fresh air when compared to the Microsoft experience.