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Ah, figures. I should know better than to post quotes without checking if they're attributed correctly

It's the same with conservatives pretty much around the world right now.

I really don't know how we're going to unfuck the situation without a lot of bloodshed – and make no mistake, it would be them who spill that blood like they're already doing, just at a much larger scale. As it is, conservatives are a threat to stable and peaceful societies, and due to their resistance to meaningful climate action they're an existential threat to humanity in general.

I actually originally dug this picture up for a post of this RawStory article titled 'Their ignorance is willful': WaPo analyst says enough with the MAGA voter pity, which is highly relevant.

The problem with the majority of right wing extremists isn't that they're just stupid misled bumpkins, but that they're actual psychopaths who vote for people like Trump because he's promising to hurt everybody they hate

Edit: apparently not a Herzog quote https://www.snopes.com/fact-check/werner-herzog-germany-quote/

… what

– Comrade Stalin, is it true that you collect political jokes?
– Yes
– How many have you collected?
– Four labor camps' worth

Yeah it's the same here, they and the younger gens have apparently gotten very polarized; the ones who are "good eggs" are really decent folks, and the shitty ones are really shitty.

So while the extremist reich wing party PS (Perussuomalaiset or "Finns Party", because naturally only a nationalist wank is a real Finn) was their most popular party, as a proportion of their cohorts more young people voted for the Left Alliance than older ones did. Here's a handy table from our 2023 parliamentary elections (source):

• KOK: National Coalition Party, fiscally conservative
• PS: Finns Party, extremist right wing
• SDP: Social Democrat, liberal / marginally left
• KESK: Centre Party, what it says on the tin
• VAS: Left Alliance, democratic socialists
• VIHR: Green League, liberal & green
• SFP: Swedish People's Party, right wing
• KD: Christian Democrats, nearly as bad as PS
• LIIK: Movement Now, nominally center right but about as right wing as KOK

Actually based on that study the claim that gen Z is more conservative than older gens doesn't seem to hold up. Seems like they're about as conservative, but also more likely to vote Left

Hmm, I wonder if Gen Z's politics are different over there compared to here, because at least in Finland the 2. most popular parties they voted for were a right wing extremist party and a "fiscally conservative" party that is essentially indistinguishable from the extremist one (the joke is that the way to tell them apart is that the "fiscal conservatives" wear more expensive suits.) Sure, many do also vote for eg. the Left Alliance who are democratic socialists, but on the whole the generation is more conservative than the older ones

I don't think money is necessarily the problem as such, so much as having to take on Trump as a client. Nobody in their right mind wants to have him as their client, because they know he can't keep his mouth shut, has idiotic demands, and is also in the habit of not paying people who work for him.

Well, all that plus he's a piece of shit fascist cult leader.

I'm not entirely convinced putting the US in charge of it would make things any better. It's not like eg. Facebook or Twitter aren't full of reich wing bullshit on purpose

I'll start seeing conservatives as people when they extend me the same courtesy.