dzsimbo

Goodness, does it ever.

But my problem was that the group put me in a box. Nobody wanted to know my level of education, just if I read this or that book on communism.

It is a totally fair reason not to engage in argument. It's just... How can I put it...? Just because I didn't read a book, I can't be knowledgable on a subject?

My guesses are that your community is so exposed to bad faith arguments, so you cannot give everyone the time of day. I haven't gone back to reread the thread, but you can probably see how I was basically backing into a corner through the whole thread.

The intensity of the argument isn't the problem, the illegitimacy of the argument is.

Yeah, I know OP is trolling. I see it is causing calls to not pull apart. Sure, maybe not every thread goes for the jugular on the hex server, but it fept by going against the grain I was a pariah immediately.

I mean at the end of the day it is petty squabbles on the internet, I just feel that we're missing out if we don't make a connection. Like, you seem smart, well read, and have a pretty novel world view that would interest me. I grew up in the context that communism is not of the devil, so it was terribbly disjarring that I finally saw a safe space to talk about the fallies of communism with hobby scientists on the matter.

I dunno, maybe I was devil's advocating and triggered a healthy response. It still feels off that I felt shut up there and now I see members of that community pleading for more open communication here.

Yup, that was me. Sorry for mixing you up. I guess you spoke to me like a human there first, that's why your name stuck.

I feel it still doesn't take away too much from my argument. While OP's post is outright malicious and is meant to start a fight, I wasn't doing that on what I thought was a proper place for discussion.

Again, I don't want to jump to conclusions, and I did make a mistake, but don't you see what I'm trying to get at?

It feels a bit disingenuous to hear the following:

to engage in productive conversation with Marxists.

I mean I got your point the other day, that I shouldn't necessarrily argue about Communistic dogma without reading all the literature, but I had to fight tooth and nail to get to that point and not just be waved away as a bad faith actor. So I was already working hard just to be told to go and read up.

OP is using the same intensity hammer you guys got going on over there. Is it fair?

Ahh, gotcha.

I still have some friends who think he's going somewhere with his shenanigans, but they are pretty far from anarchists.

It's cool that he is a disqualifier now, and having some people who rooted for him before his disgrace on the podium just makes the community that much more colorful.

In case anyone want's to read up, wikipedia link to "the father of public relations".

I'm pretty sure it's light-weight psyops. Gitmo got a cutesy name as well. Anyone not directly part of the silly walks ministerium doesn't give a nickname to something so serious.

I don't disagree, but unhappy to report I have the same power over either outcome.

Let's wait 'til the shopping spree is over and break them the fuck up <3

Hmh. I am surprised to hear of this here first. Maybe I'm not subscribing to a balanced media diet, but I didn't know Paks II was on pause because of America. Troubling because any and all sides could have politicized it.

Hi Everyone!

I thought I'd stop by and share a bit. I'm one of those slower adopters who slouched over after reddit's api crash (i still use old.reddit to check in on my old.country), and am part of the wave that found their way here from lemm.ee. From my time on that instance my main take-away was that dialogue is more sincere on the lemmiverse than reddit, and I guess I'm not a tankie. Hex, eh?

I am really happy to have spotted this community in the wild. Just in the past hour I read up on new methods for reaching consensus, just by taking a cursory glance at guidelines and lore. This feels right.

I already wanted to argue how can anyone just pick one character, when I realized I already did as well. Maybe I can add more color in the next census. What's up with the 'other' catagory? Everything made emotional sense and then comes Elon Musk! How spicy.

Anywho, thanks for having me.

P.s.: I haven't really linked the lemm.ee account (not even sure if it's possible or worth it), but I have found some threads I was commenting on and followed up with the new account. If you go deep enough, you can see how I need to read up on my communistic script. Looking forward to figuring out how deep this rabbit hole goes.

I think I was able to bring the 'at' closer to the time, but I'm not sure it's correct:

'This can't possibly be the same 9pm I used to start getting ready at for a night out'

I'm tempted to remove the 'used to' and just put it in simple past for brevity, but that would hold back half the punch.

This is one of my favorite types of discourse. Polishing jokes and grammar in the gravitas it deserves.