What a well earned drop. They keep forcing their bullshit on us, of course we're interested in other OS's as a result.
I do use windows for most things, but my servers will never run anything but Linux at this point.
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Funny thing. Back in the day, and possibly today, all windows Hotmail/Livemail servers were Linux.
I began using Windows in 1992. I switched to MacOS this year and I'm never going back.
As someone who has had to use Windows, OSX and Linux as a daily driver at different points, OSX was by far the most challenging to work with. Every few months something broke. Fully on Linux now.
As someone who has used Windows, OSX, and Linux as a daily driver at different points, Windows was by far the most challenging to work with. Every week there was some problem.
In recent years, my company provided Dell with 32GB of memory running Windows would blue screen practically weekly. Most of the time it struggled to run more than one instance of an IDE. Windows finally crashed to the point that the only option was restore the OS.
I requested a different machine and have been running macOS with less memory. Have actually been able to run more IDE instances than the Windows machine would run. No crashes.
Completely Unix based OSes now. Linux servers. Linux desktops. Mac laptops.
windows dying doesn't help. they are on a shopping spree buying every AAA game that tencent haven't already bought.
Where are they going? There's no way it's Linux, right? So I guess it's Mac?
It's kind of linux. Also kind of mac. They're going to android and ios.
Phones and tablets. The younger generations are only using those for the most part.
I’m thinking they’re doing it on purpose. Think you’re a multibazillion company, want to quit your least profitable line of work (OS business) but it’s also your most famous front. Diluting a business is how you quit without scaring investors.
Enshittification will do that, yep
I just wish Linux remote desktop support wasn't absolute dogshit.
RustDesk, it's by far the best remote desktop software I've used on any platform.
Tons of great features, open source, self-hostable, easy to install and configure, works on all major platforms including mobile. Cross platform works like a charm.
Thanks. I’ll give it a try.
It really isn't. You don't even need to port forward, you can use AnyDesk or TeamViewer or any other option entirely for free. There are also open-source options too.
I’ve used them all. They all suck.
How so? They work fine on me between laptop and desktop, phone and desktop, etc.
They work well enough to get by, but definitely lack the responsiveness and modern feel of Windows rdp. Which makes sense, given the Linux solutions are essentially sending screen caps vs rdp's protocols.
It feels like using a raspberry pi as your workstation. Technically it can do it, but it’s not a great experience. It feels like when you’re in a video chat app, and someone using screen share gives you keyboard/mouse control.
I had luck with VNC, although it's still worse than RDP. There's also some RDP implementations on Linux that are apparently better, but VNC works well enough for me.
But there's no sound, I don't know if RDP has that. I've used VLC for sound forwarding. I also tried PulseAudio TCP module, but that didn't quite work. With VLC I can do lossy compression.
What I wish would work better is X11 forwarding. That could be so awesome, just having the remote windows local-like. But from what I can find, in the past, programs used X11's drawing features which would save a lot of bandwidth, while now they just draw pixel by pixel.
To give you some idea, I've tried it on LAN with gigabit ethernet, ping below 1ms. It would saturate the port and still be kinda slow.
There are plenty of options for both software and OS, so not every combination is going to have the same level of support as Windows, where every user gets the same experience.
That said, I've heard lots of good things about NoMachine.
I used NoMachine for the better part of a year, and I’d agree it’s the best of the options. It still sucks.
Everyone talking about how it's because of Windows 11 or their greed driving people away, etc. But they're ignoring the big one:
People don't need as many computers these days. You don't have a lot of households with a laptop for every member of the family because smartphones and tablets have replaced the PC for many people for media consumption and basic tasks.
Exactly. My wife hasn't used an actual computer more than a handful of times in the last several years. She does EVERYTHING on her smartphone.
I have never owned a laptop, because my desktop unit is where I do most of my business stuff, and when I'm away from that, my smartphone is good enough.
Of course, the most important thing isn't that we account for two less computers than a few years ago, but the smartphones that we have replaced laptops with, run Android. So that's actually a net loss of 4 MS products.
And after all these years, Windows products still make me frustrated and infuriated. You'd think they would have honed it to a perfect product by now, but every few years they completely reconfigure the UI, and make us have to navigate a whole new, buggy system.
I keep having to remind people around me that phones are the primary computing device for an ever increasing percentage of the population.
Lemmy wants to rail on Windows 11 AND they talk shit about your average person not understanding filesystems.
Lemmy wants to rail on Windows 11 AND they talk shit about your average person not understanding filesystems.
At some point, it just becomes exhausting to hear people explain-o-brag about their ability to navigate the command-line, like typing "dir" into a cursor field makes them the hottest thing since Alan Turing.
Millennials will tell you they are tech geniuses, then throw up their hands when their dishwasher breaks or their check-oil light comes on. The need to be cluelessly smug rivals any 90s-era Boomer.
Looks around my living room, 3 laptops, stationary, 1 nas and a server. 2 laptops are still running windows.
You are an outlier.
I think you're right on this. People aren't moving away from MS because of their obnoxious behaviour. They're moving to alternate form factors and dealing with Apple's and Google's obnoxious behaviour instead. People are willing to put up with a metric ton of bullshit so they don't have to actually do anything for themselves.
I don't think their obnoxious behavior is completely unrelated. After all, people aren't choosing windows phones or tablets either.
Correct. Whenever you see a large chunk of the population making a change, first assume it is for mundane reasons like finances or convenience.
I'll be joining soon enough, going to dual boot with Linux. Only keeping windows for games that won't work on Linux.
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