ComradePenguin

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Every argument against socialism can be dismantled and solved somehow. It just requires that you dream, imagine a better world. That you are a little idealistic and optimistic.

If you think it would reduce innovation: State funded startups, requirement is that the company is democratically controlled by the employees, and that the employees own the company, or that the state owns 49% of it. Or some other split between state, founder and employees.

If you think this is a bad idea, then maybe you can imagine something else? Or some middle ground between today's brutal capitalist solution and the thing I proposed?

People would just use up all the resources even if they don't need it. Okay, then we limit the consumption per person. Or we still have some money, and you buy the luxuries with that money. So that people still have to prioritize.

Also, if you think a planned economy is bad, what would you call the logistics and planning of Amazon, or even Temu (Just the logistics and planning part, not quality)? It is possible to plan for needs. You just start with making the basic services free, and gradually adds more options of products and services. You track trends in consumption and increase or decrease based on demand.

Socialism or communism isn't a finished ideology, we don't have a template. Establishing systems would take creativity and thorough planning. So yours and everyone else's imagination would shape that future.

As fascism is rising in parts of the world, I have begun to wonder how China considers socialists/communists from other countries, as a contingency plan if all else fails.

Communism is barely within the overton window in many western capitalist countries, this can change in the future.

I am from a northern european country, so the country is a social democracy, but slowly becoming more right leaning and economically libertarian.

Edit:I highly doubt I would have any reason to move in the future, but I am kinda curious by nature. I also have it really comfortable, and do not fear any political prosecution.

I have always been a leftie, and sympathetic to socialism.

I live in a social democratic nordic country. Capitalism is the economic system.

I have thought that I should act like an economically rational entity, and make good financial decisions. Regardless of my beliefs.

I have bought an apartment with my wife, and we have started invested a significant portion in index funds to prepare for retirement in the future.

We both work ethical jobs that contribute positively to society. This was a requirement for the both of us.

Our rationalisation is that we should not sacrifice our own lives that significantly, but instead be politically active, donate a significant amount of money to the socialist party and educate people. We can contribute to change, but by not participating in the capitalist economy, we will hurt ourselves in the long run, without actually changing anything.

We have no plans of becoming "rich" by our country's standard. But the end goal is living off the pension from the government and our investments in the future.

I just feel that it is a contradictory way of living life, but we at least try to support socialist causes a lot more financially.

Yes, I know there is no ethical consumption under capitalism.

I still need material gods and services. How can I make the necessary purchases more ethical?

Edit: I live in Northern Europe, if that matters