@mho @heiseBotti @fediverse you can add @novaramedia.com on Bluesky (also bridged to Mastodon) - it’s an independent left wing media organisation from the UK
this post was submitted on 09 Jul 2025
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@[email protected] is quite likely the official org
Hilarious that that account's made a single comment pushing back on classic lemmy hysteria/paranoia and then apparently left the platform.
@mho Das ist DER Fehler im Fediverse. Warum muss man für jeden Service einen eigenen Account haben?
Muss man überhaupt nicht, das ist tatsächlich der große Vorteil. Trotzdem gibt es Argumente dafür, zum Beispiel, weil verschiedene Dienste unterschiedliches ermöglichen: Zum Beispiel die hüpfenden Emojis von @heiseBotti
Nein, das sind unterschiedliche Dinge. Du kannst von deinem Mastodon-Account kein Peertube-Video veröffentlichen, dazu brauchst du den Account. Aber du kannst damit interagieren (linken, in der Timeline gucken, per P2P teilen etc.) und das ist der Vorteil.
Wer vorwiegend Bilder postet, sollte dafür keinen Mastodon-Account nutzen, bei Kurznachrichten dagegen schon. Das Tolle ist, dass alle trotzdem verknüpft sind. Die Softwares sind aber untereinander nicht austauschbar.
@mho wir reden aneinander vorbei. Der Geburtsfehler ist, dass Identity nicht funktioniert. Anstatt eine eindeutige ID zu haben, hast du auf jeder Instanz eine andere. Und deshalb suchst du dir einen Wolf nach Medien im Fediverse. In atproto ist meine ID did:plc:k5ybhnnyl4zwq7ey3q3fogzt und sie kann beliebige Namen haben. Egal welcher Service, diese ID bleibt gleich.
In a perfect world, all media organIationa would have their own instances (tied to their domains) for each network type (threadiverse, micro logging, video, short form video) and these instances would be used for both content distribution (official NYT mastadon feed) and for validation of journalists.
The non-profit foundations that manage these networks could provide managed services to raise more money for development (beyond donations).
This is the part of the internet that we have forgotten. Everyone is supposed to be their own little island but they all connect. If I want news I shouldn’t have to go to Facebook, I should have to go to the news org.
This is why the Fediverse has been thriving by imitating monolithic platforms like Reddit or Twitter but doing so in a way that domains (aka “sites” are still all their own.
I shouldn’t have to go to Reddit to get to CNN, I should have to go to CNN to get CNN. CNN should not join Lemmy, CNN should host a Lemmy instance and have communities for topics and programs, and its users should only be people who work there. And that should all be federated out for the rest of us to interact with.
(CNN was the quickest news org name to type and I wasn’t about to use Fox as an example)
This is why RSS is/was so important. RSS readers curate what a user wants to catch up on or follow, right from the sources. Having your own reader (not Feedly, its too big really) means you choose who to directly follow. You click through to them. Back in the day Technorati provided what was trending and big headlines r busy hashtags. So a kind of watchtower. All links went directly to the original content.
It's funny how Americans technology oligarchs love propaganda copytext that includes terms like innovation, change and disruption, yet they are all vapid and lacking any imagination.
@mho Since when is Threads part of the Fediverse?
@mho So it's possible for Thread users to follow people in the Fediverse now? And they actual moderate their servers, respect data privacy and copyrights?
No, it isn't. But that doesn't make something part of the #Fediverse, does it? Try following someone with a Peertube-account for example. I dind't find a way, yet it's still a part of the #Fediverse..
I'd say: Fediverse = "connected via ActivityPub"
@mho Disagree.
Because it does. And I am already following people on PeerTube, works just fine!
I've to say, reducing the Fediverse, its development, its history and many supporting different software and diverse communities to a protocol, is, to be frank, just ignorant for an editor of an on tech focused online magazine. You should know better in 2025.
@mho We are getting off track. I'd say, don't call it "Fediverse" in your original post, but e.g. "software using activity pub", if that is what you are referring to and if you don't want to be misunderstood.
Regarding the Fediverse and what it stand for as its self-conception built over the years by so many individuals and communities which widely agree upon, my above mentioned remarks still apply.
Bluesky doesn't count.
I don't see why a media organisation would use lemmy. Unless if it's via the wordpress or another integration.
Media organizations typically don't want to post (only) to discussion groups, they want to provide a way to follow them as organizations.
That being said, @[email protected] does sometimes mention threadiverse communities in its posts so they appear in those communities.
I know about @heiseonline 😊 That's us.
yeah, I saw your instance only after posting the above comment :D
Still, some other people reading this thread might not know this; I think the way you guys are doing it is a good way to get your articles more widely spread, I think it would be good if other media organizations did the same.
What do you mean by verified? I'm not sure there's such a thing as "verification" on Lemmy, at least.
Also, if the organisation shares their fediverse profile on their official website, you can consider them verified
I, for example, also count it as verified if an organization links to their account on their website...
Probably verification by the associated domain. At least this works on Mastodon and Friendica.
https://stefanbohacek.com/blog/verification-in-the-fediverse/