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[–] [email protected] 11 points 4 months ago (6 children)

The fuck does he even want with Greenland. How did this become a thing. Who planted the idea in his tiny head. Is this some Russian plot putin is making him do.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago)

Probably some misguided thought that somehow it will be more habitable than the rest of the US thanks to climate change (the climate change that doesn’t exist) opening up real resource extraction.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 4 months ago (1 children)

Military dominance in the Arctic. Russia and China are also vying for influence. The US already has a large military base there. Thule Space Base. But taking territory from friends and allies by military force is probably the worst way to go about doing anything.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 4 months ago

Maybe that base ought to be closed given the mess the US made with previous bases.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 4 months ago (1 children)

There's a competition going on to see who can convince drump to publicly say the stupidest thing.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 4 months ago

Do we have instruments sensitive enough to distinguish between such abyssal levels of idiocy?

[–] [email protected] 3 points 4 months ago (1 children)

Same thing America always wants: oil and control over shipping lanes

[–] [email protected] 2 points 4 months ago (1 children)

But like who told him to do it. This Greenland and Panama canal thing is not something his deep fried brain could come up with in a million years and it came out of him to start which is also weird. Usually the Russian propaganda youtubers start an idea then faux news starts planting seeds then Trump will see it on there and boom we get the tweets. I haven't followed this super close but from what I can gather this originated with him, which is already crazy since he doesn't originate anything on his own except poopy diapers.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 4 months ago

Tbh it could've been literally any one of the fascists with which he's surrounded himself this past decade.

[–] [email protected] 11 points 4 months ago (1 children)

Greenland is rich in mineral resources. One of his dozen billionaires got into his empty head.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 4 months ago

Gee, I wonder which insecure shitbag with the jr. high mentality it is?

[–] [email protected] 33 points 4 months ago (1 children)

Surely the dems would have been just as bad right?

[–] [email protected] 3 points 4 months ago (1 children)

We'll soon be in the find out phase. This honeymoon has soured.

[–] [email protected] 8 points 4 months ago

He's not even President yet and I'm already exhausted by his administration.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 4 months ago (2 children)

Hypotehtically say he sent the amilitary to take Greenland what would the outcome be

[–] [email protected] 11 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago)

I mean

Good question

Essentially that would be the US invading another NATO country (Denmark) and annexing it's territory. Which I think would call for article 5 (In this case an act of war against all of NATO by the largest military of NATO). In practice, would Denmark and the rest of NATO just not call it an invasion? Send a bunch of strongly worded letters about an "unauthorized intrusion" or something? I have no idea.

I mean I think Trump is probably saying these things just to stay in the spotlight or distract from other news, like he often does.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 4 months ago

Would probably get Greenland and the US would face a lot of hostility. But he doesn't seem to care about consequences much.

[–] [email protected] 25 points 4 months ago (3 children)

Any other asshole in Washington would be laughed out of office for saying shit like this. This particular asshole gets sanewashed and taken seriously. Why?

[–] [email protected] 1 points 4 months ago

He doesn't get taken seriously. By anybody. Ever. It's his singular source of effectiveness.

They all just see him as a wrecking ball to destroy everything with.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 4 months ago

Surely 100 dollars out of your yearly taxes to start a pointless war on two fronts is better than 20 cents out of your yearly taxes to stop the greatest threat to human rights, ability for people to self govern and peace in europe against an enemy who has been interfering in everyones internal politics and threatening everyone with nukes constantly.

[–] [email protected] 13 points 4 months ago

He's a cult leader. They get to do crazy stuff with no consequences.

[–] [email protected] 14 points 4 months ago (1 children)

What happens when the military just goes "nope"?

[–] [email protected] 20 points 4 months ago

Easy: People within its ranks will begin to make choices. Not necessarily take action, just make choices. If things continue small insubordinations will occur and eventually rifts at nearly every level.

If things got really bad the military would split into three:

  1. Pro Trump
  2. Pro United States
  3. Undecided/Everyone else.

If this happens it will be a test of the quality of leadership on both major sides. A fundamental breaking of the chain. It's why Trump wants to replace current military leadership: They've told him no. A pattern we'll continue to see for at least two years.

[–] [email protected] 8 points 4 months ago (4 children)

I read headlines like this and sometimes wonder if someone slipped me crazy pills. It's just so bonkers. Greenland? WTF? Panama, I kind of understand, because reactionary old assholes have been butthurt about Panama being planned to be handed over, then actually handed over, for fucking decades and donvict is the exact type of crotchety and butthurt old dumbass that I've been hearing whine about it for as long as I can remember.

But why the fuck would America use military force to take either? Other than gender-affirming for someone like donvict, what do we stand to gain?

[–] [email protected] 2 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago)

Greenland is just the low-hanging fruit, an easy target. Something for the masses at home. Taking it won't take an afternoon. In fact, they'll just show up, plant a flag, next to it a "No Danes" sign, then call it a day. Then make a biiig celebration of it at home so everybody is distracted while they irreparably dismantle American democracy.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 4 months ago

The US? Nothing.

But if you read the classic fascist playbook, a military conflict is an essential stage in grabbing and especially in securing power. A conflict with a near peer like China is too dangerous and costly, but a series of minor to medium conflicts – like war with Panama to "secure" the canal or "liberating" Greenland or Canada might suffice.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 4 months ago

People would say that call of duty was extremely unrealistic this time around if they used this as a plot element haha

[–] [email protected] 12 points 4 months ago

Greenland has oil, and it'll be prime real-estate in a decade or two once the equatorial regions are inhospitable.

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