The one part I as a non-American don't understand about this is: Is America not supposed to be a free country? Why the hell do you have people who can kill anyone with no repercussions? What the hell happened to the rule of law? And, more importantly, why the actual fuck is the whole country not up in arms over this?
THE POLICE PROBLEM
The police problem is that police are policed by the police. Cops are accountable only to other cops, which is no accountability at all.
99.9999% of police brutality, corruption, and misconduct is never investigated, never punished, never makes the news, so it's not on this page.
When cops are caught breaking the law, they're investigated by other cops. Details are kept quiet, the officers' names are withheld from public knowledge, and what info is eventually released is only what police choose to release — often nothing at all.
When police are fired — which is all too rare — they leave with 'law enforcement experience' and can easily find work in another police department nearby. It's called "Wandering Cops."
When police testify under oath, they lie so frequently that cops themselves have a joking term for it: "testilying." Yet it's almost unheard of for police to be punished or prosecuted for perjury.
Cops can and do get away with lawlessness, because cops protect other cops. If they don't, they aren't cops for long.
The legal doctrine of "qualified immunity" renders police officers invulnerable to lawsuits for almost anything they do. In practice, getting past 'qualified immunity' is so unlikely, it makes headlines when it happens.
All this is a path to a police state.
In a free society, police must always be under serious and skeptical public oversight, with non-cops and non-cronies in charge, issuing genuine punishment when warranted.
Police who break the law must be prosecuted like anyone else, promptly fired if guilty, and barred from ever working in law-enforcement again.
That's the solution.
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Our definition of ‘cops’ is broad, and includes prison guards, probation officers, shitty DAs and judges, etc — anyone who has the authority to fuck over people’s lives, with minimal or no oversight.
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ALLIES
• r/ACAB
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INFO
• A demonstrator's guide to understanding riot munitions
• Cops aren't supposed to be smart
• Killings by law enforcement in Canada
• Killings by law enforcement in the United Kingdom
• Killings by law enforcement in the United States
• Know your rights: Filming the police
• Three words. 70 cases. The tragic history of 'I can’t breathe' (as of 2020)
• Police aren't primarily about helping you or solving crimes.
• Police lie under oath, a lot
• Police spin: An object lesson in Copspeak
• Police unions and arbitrators keep abusive cops on the street
• Shielded from Justice: Police Brutality and Accountability in the United States
• When the police knock on your door
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ORGANIZATIONS
• NAACP
• National Police Accountability Project
• Vera: Ending Mass Incarceration
We were never a free country in any sense like you're describing. That'd just our own internal propaganda.
I agree with your last statement. There are countless reasons I can't understand why people aren't burning this country to the ground. Especially those further in poverty and struggling to just get by.
I still am shocked Occupy Wall Street wasn't more violent. It probably needed to be.
The reason we haven't burt it down is because the ones in power are really good at making the ignorant masses hate each other. Even during covid people were pissed off that unemployed people were getting a little extra help, when business owners were raking in PPE loans. Instead of focusing that anger where it really belongs. Half the country hates minorities and trans people, the other half hate maga. When instead, we should all be focusing on the bezos and musks and guillotines.
Man, RATM had it figured out in 1992. 😬
Now I got no patience
So sick of complacence
With the D, the E, the F, the I, the A, the N, the C, the E
Mind of a revolutionary, so clear the lane
The finger to the land of the chains
What? The "land of the free"?
Whoever told you that is your enemy
I wish it hadn't taken 30 more years before I realized how right they were.
Brother Ali says it even better:
They keep sayin' we're free
But we're all just loose
wtf but hey it was swiped from a judge. what a sad story
What the fuck does a stolen weed eater require a home raid? Like WTF.
Cops like to charge others for extra crimes when they eff something up, so now they will charge the guy who stole the weed eater from the judge with murder. And Kentucky has capital punishment...
A weed eater stolen from a judges home. Judges and cops worship each other. To cops its like someone stole god's weed eater.
This happened in a state where the majority of residents (especially in these rural areas) feel everyone should be armed for protection. They are also overwhelmingly in favor of aggressive police tactics so when I see a rural man defending himself and being shot for it by police I can't help but sigh. I mean, anyone with half a brain could see these situations coming. Do we really need to use swat teams for non violent property crimes?
He might have been armed with a weed eater!
"Oh don't like the cops? I guess the next time you're in trouble you'll call a crackhead?"
That does seem to have a better survival rate
If given the option of where my tax money would go, I'd give crackheads a try at this point, yes.
Worst case scenario, we'll learn new recycling habits, like using old coke cans as bowls.
No joke, my boyfriend actually used an old Coca-Cola can to smoke weed out of because he forgot that I owned a couple of actual pipes.
I mean he's not that bright, at least he doesn't seem too bright, but then he pulls some shit like that and I feel kinda dumb and sorry for misjudging him.
I guess what Einstein said is true, if you judge a fish based on its ability to fly or a bird on its ability to swim, you'll think they're both worthless idiots. Not exactly what he said mind you, but that was the sentiment.
if you judge a fish based on its ability to fly or a bird on its ability to swim, you’ll think they’re both worthless idiots.
I like it. I'll be stealing that to talk about centrists not understand how they lost the election. :-) Will follow your comments for more.
They would definitely steal less
I know 3 crackheads right now that would handle things with a much cooler head than the police here. And that is not an exaggeration.
This is a repeat post, so I'll repeat one of my replies partially: I wouldn’t be surprised if a suddenly vacant lot wouldn’t suddenly be auctioned off to a cop’s relative in areas with a high predominance of this. Read up on civil asset forfeiture as well. In some places, cops are basically legalized mafias.
Yet another reason to have minimum 2-3 year federal training program and licensing to work law enforcement, add it to the pile
It sounds like the judge and police were working together to execute someone. I really can't tell incompetence from pure evil anymore.