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[–] [email protected] 62 points 2 months ago (6 children)

The graph is fucked btw. Read the values its different than the bars. Also a gaph like this should set the starting point for everything on the same level and only show the change not how much it changed by. You could put a car on this graph and shiw how its price increased by 100$ which would blow out all the other data even though its price only changed by 1% for example.

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[–] [email protected] 7 points 2 months ago (1 children)

I wonder how this affects homelessness. What surprised me in my country was how much the homeless dependent on those cheap eats for food. How a 2 dollar burger here meant a meal for them, and how a price increase meant extra begging to get fed.

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[–] [email protected] 8 points 2 months ago

More reason to stop eating fast food.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 2 months ago

They did bring back the 5 dollar meal though, at least in my region. Which immediately makes them a viable option.

But the five dollar meal is weird in comparison to everything else they offer.

For example, a small fries by itself is $2.50 half the cost of the whole 5 dollar meal.

To me this indicates that they're just arbitrarily increasing prices for the sake of them being more expensive.

The problem of course with raising prices at McDonald's is that people eat there because they're supposed to be cheap and fast. Not because of their "gourmet" food.

[–] [email protected] 13 points 2 months ago

It's largely because of new tiered pricing. They want to extract the maximum price while not losing any customers.

To do this, they first double or triple all their prices. Then, for those who are willing to stand on one leg, pat their head, and rub their stomach* while ordering the right things, they'll charge you half price.

(*By this I mean use their app. The main purpose of the app and the deals are to charge everyone what they're willing to pay.)

[–] [email protected] 11 points 2 months ago (1 children)

Fast food didn't just stop being cheap, it also stopped being fast. Might not be the case for everywhere, but when they got the self-checkout screens they started making every order in order, and nothing more. Now if I order a single item, I still have to wait if there are many orders before mine. I miss the time when I could look behind the cashier and see what they had pre-made to get something immediately.

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[–] [email protected] 23 points 2 months ago (3 children)

IMO, it might be a good idea to compare those prices against relative purchasing power of a dollar. I don't know how those prices stack up to the overall rate of inflation or CPI, or even the cost of the specific ingredients. I would have less of an issue with price increases if a) McDonald's profit margin--as a percentage of cost--remained steady, and b) the cost held steady against the relative value of the dollar overall. If it's just arbitrarily raising prices because they can, then that's bullshit.

[–] [email protected] 20 points 2 months ago

From a quick googlebthe dollar inflation is up 33% since 2014. The lowest increase is 67%.

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[–] [email protected] 2 points 2 months ago

mildy inflating

[–] [email protected] 6 points 2 months ago (1 children)

Did the UK Lib Dems make this bar chart?

[–] [email protected] 3 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago) (2 children)

I don't understand the insinuation you're going for. Care to explain?

[–] [email protected] 1 points 2 months ago

I'm not the person you're replying to, but I think their point is that the bars don't scale linearly. The red bar (2014 price) for the McChicken is supposed to represent $1 and the yellow bar (2024 price) ~$3, but the yellow bar is not 3 times the length of the red bar. This means the relative differences between the bar lengths doesn't match the percent increase number printed above then. This is most egregious comparing relative differences between the McChicken and the Quarter Pounder with Cheese meal: why does a 122% increase look so much worse than the 199% increase?

I suspect the cause of problem is that the small bars were stretched a bit to fit printing the dollar value within then, but if it throws off the visual accuracy of the bars, what's the point of using bars at all?

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[–] [email protected] 6 points 2 months ago

To compare, inflation from 2014 to 2025 has been about 33%

[–] [email protected] 14 points 2 months ago

Plenty small restaurants have not seen price increases this stark over this period of time. Eat there instead.

[–] [email protected] 19 points 2 months ago (1 children)

Mildly infuriating is +122% being the largest bar graph and +199% is the smallest.

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[–] [email protected] 0 points 2 months ago

Where are these prices from? A quarter pounder meal is under $10 where I am.

[–] [email protected] 170 points 2 months ago (2 children)

I don't see anyone mentioning the proportions of the bars. For example, on the 1st item, $1 vs $2.99 is not even double the size...

[–] [email protected] 85 points 2 months ago (1 children)

At first, I was assaulted by the percentage representation. Then I cooled down and thought, it’s not the percentage, but those bars are the absolute height of the price! Me smart, until I took a look again and now my hate is burning so, so hard for this graph. It is designed to enrage.

[–] [email protected] 43 points 2 months ago (4 children)

They’re not. The $3 bar is not 3x the height of the $1 bar next to it. The $2.99 bar on the right is higher than the $2.99 bar on the left. Someone just free drew the bars and it’s extremely noticeable and annoying.

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[–] [email protected] 51 points 2 months ago

What's actually infuriating are those bar charts.

[–] [email protected] 10 points 2 months ago (1 children)

Don't eat fast food, make your own.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 2 months ago

If you're already at home it's faster too.

[–] [email protected] 9 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago) (1 children)

Fast food is supposed to be trash and cheap. It now is just trash.

Last time, I was at McDonald's, they got my order wrong, it took forever and on my way back home, I got a speeding ticket.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 2 months ago (3 children)

How did they make sure you got a speeding ticket? Seems like an over-reach even for a multi national corporation.

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[–] [email protected] 14 points 2 months ago (1 children)

Is that little girl in the picture to blame?

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[–] [email protected] 20 points 2 months ago (1 children)

And McDonald's countered with a statement Pricing Myths vs Facts where they compared 2019-2024 prices where the original study the infographic is based on compared 2014-2024 prices. A little FUD seasoning if your will to make it all look less bad.

That's the same company that countered their wages being too low to live on by producing an example budget to show how you can survive with only a McDonald's job. The first line in the budget is income from the first and second job. They costs are even more laughable today.

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[–] [email protected] -5 points 2 months ago (2 children)

Think about people working there.
They want a living wage at least.

[–] [email protected] 13 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago)

Would be nice to see a graph of inflation-adjusted wages at McDonalds between 2014 and now.

I don't have the data, but I doubt much of this price increase is going into worker's pockets. It's profit for CEOs and shareholders.

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[–] [email protected] 23 points 2 months ago (1 children)

The two inflation calculators that I found said that a dollar in 2014 should be worth $1.33 in 2025. That’s significantly lower than the lowest price increase in this infographic.

[–] [email protected] 26 points 2 months ago

Also most of that inflation was the last few years, driven mostly by corporate greed. Not from rising company expenses.

[–] [email protected] 76 points 2 months ago (1 children)

Sooooo, stop eating there? It’s expensive enough bowing to the grocery cartels, who can afford to eat out?

[–] [email protected] 61 points 2 months ago (3 children)
[–] [email protected] 19 points 2 months ago

God I wish that plane went down

[–] [email protected] 50 points 2 months ago (1 children)

Yet another reason to stop eating there

[–] [email protected] 2 points 2 months ago (1 children)

You mean providing a photo opportunity for a billionaire to roleplay being a poor to help him get elected wasn't enough to get progressive to boycott them? I think that's much more actively politically involved than Hobby Lobby or Chic Fil A.

[–] [email protected] 9 points 2 months ago (1 children)

I can blame McDonald's for a lot of things, but not this. They didn't really get a choice.

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[–] [email protected] 15 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago) (2 children)

These figures should be inflation adjusted

Also why no big Mac?

2014 $5.39 inflation adjusted to 2024 $7.18

[–] [email protected] 15 points 2 months ago

They should also compare shrinkflation. If a burger price rises by 25% but it’s size shrinks by 10%, the cost is much higher as you’re paying more for less.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 2 months ago

Agreed, but only if wages and especialy minimum wage was inflation adjusted

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