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[–] [email protected] 3 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago)

Not Worth it their food is not very good anyways its average.

[–] [email protected] 15 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago)

Everyone knows that McDonald's don't degrade over time. You can put one in its original bag in the closet for a number of years without problems.

Shame on you for not buying in bulk when the price was more amenable. Get down to your local McDonald's now and buy yourself at least 57 Big Macs which I've calculated to be the optimal amount until global warming renders this planet a cinder. And get me a chocolate milkshake while you're at it, please.

[–] [email protected] 8 points 2 months ago (2 children)

McDoubles were $1 many places until 2016 or later. My standard McD meal for years was 3 McDoubles for $3. After that they raised McDoubles to closer to $2 but the McTriple was also about $2 so I switched to 2 McTriples for $4.

Now the only way to get a decent price meal is to use the app and I refuse to use the app. Now and then they’ll have a 2/$6 deal but it still feels overpriced.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 2 months ago

I do a mcdouble and use the free medium fry for any $2 purchase deal. Comes out to 3 or 4 bucks total depending on location which is about what it would have cost in 2015 or so.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 2 months ago (1 children)

I got two mcdoubles and a pineapple mango smoothie the other day and it was 12 bucks. First time I went in over a year. Canada. I'll never go back

[–] [email protected] 1 points 2 months ago

McDonald’s Canada is like 30% more expensive. The price delta far exceeds the exchange rate.

[–] [email protected] 11 points 2 months ago

Prices fit for a billionaire who wears depends

[–] [email protected] 5 points 2 months ago

I don’t eat there so the jokes on them!

[–] [email protected] 10 points 2 months ago

I gave up on McDonalds. I can get better food elsewhere for half the price. Their trash was ok for pushing a turd, but not for what they charge today.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago) (1 children)

I'm surprised they are not all 200%, didn't the money supply double in that time period?

[–] [email protected] 1 points 2 months ago

200% is 3x

Also, money supply metric is a bad proxy for inflation

[–] [email protected] 31 points 2 months ago (2 children)

Prices have gone up while portions, service, and even quality (as low as it already was) have gone down. When does "the free market" start improving things for customers instead of just shareholders?

[–] [email protected] 6 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago) (3 children)

Did the quality really go down? I don't go to McDonald's very often but I think the quality has improved a lot from what I remember it being in the 2000s/2010s. It's still mostly unhealthy slop, but sometimes that's exactly what you need.

Granted, I'm in Germany; I can't speak for any other country's locations

[–] [email protected] 6 points 2 months ago (1 children)

Majority of McDonalds locations are franchised so quality varies widely.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 2 months ago (1 children)

Quality of food is determined by McDonald's as they control the supply chain. Quality of prep vary by location

[–] [email protected] 2 points 2 months ago

Somehow I don't think you're getting a McAloo Tikki Burger, or a Spicy Paneer Wrap outside of India McDonald's.

Their menu definitely changes depending on the country.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 2 months ago

Germany has regulations for food that are much more demanding than those of the US, so there isn't much that fast food restaurants can do to cut costs in Germany aside from the order touchscreens and such.

Here's an example.

Excerpt about additives:

Believe it or not, big name food brands often adjust their ingredients in European countries compared to their products released in the United States. Certain ingredients that are illegal in Europe are still allowed, and commonly used, in the United States. The following eight common ingredients are approved in the U.S. but  banned by the European Union or select European states.

  • rBGH (rBST) 

    • Common foods: Milk and yogurt
    • Purpose: Injected into cows to boost milk production
  • Ractopamine

    • Common foods: Pork, beef, and turkey
    • Purpose: Increases lean muscle near the end of an animal’s life
  • Potassium bromate (bromated flour)

    • Common foods: Hamburger and hot dog buns, and packaged baked goods
    • Purpose: Makes bread fluffier and whiter
  • Brominated vegetable oil (BVO)

    • Common beverages: Sports drinks and sodas
    • Purpose: Keeps flavor from floating to the surface
  • Olestra 

    • Common foods: Fat-free chips
    • Purpose: Substitutes fat
  • Azodicarbonamide

    • Common foods: Frozen dinners, pasta mix, and packaged baked goods
    • Purpose: Bleaches flour rapidly
  • Coloring agents (Red #40, Yellow #6, Yellow #5, and Blue #1)

    • Common foods/beverages: Cake mix, candy, soda, and sports beverages
    • Purpose: Changes food color
  • BHA and BHT

    • Common foods/beverages: Gum, cereal, vegetable oil, butter, and beer
    • Purpose: Makes food last longer

And these additive ingredients expand past the EU into the United Kingdom. For example, the American version of Kraft Macaroni and Cheese is entirely different from Kraft’s “Cheesey Pasta” sold in Great Britain. Take a look at the differences below.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 2 months ago

Maybe it's location based, but I had a mcflurry about a year ago and was given a pathetically small amount of the topping poorly mixed in a terrible filler ice cream. Perhaps the ice cream in the mcflurry was always terrible, but I hadn't noticed it before when I would get a lot more of the topping. Also, their coffee was better for a time but it has reverted to burnt mud.

[–] [email protected] 10 points 2 months ago (2 children)

According to economic theory, "when price exceeds value."

[–] [email protected] 7 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago)

"Perceived value"

Without that element, there would be no explanation for Marketing other than pure Brand Awareness promotion working (and McDonalds is definitely beyond needing more Brand Awareness, at least in the Developed World)

Even then, it doesn't explain a lot of how Marketing does its work (namelly the stuff they took from Psychology and use to do things like create associations between brand and specific feelings on people's subconscious - you know, the way cars are "freedom" and perfumes are "sex").

And don't get me started on other techniques that prey of human cognitive weaknesses (for example, FOMO would not work with the fabled Homo Economicus that underpins so much of Free Market Theory)

Anyways, a ton of present day enshittification (and that includes this kind of price inflation) relies on people having a well entrenched positive perception of a brand after years of having a relationship with it (i.e. chosing it as customers) and there being quite a lot of momentum behind it. It also relies a lot on using a "slow boiling" effect to keep people from spotting the full picture of the changes.

[–] [email protected] 8 points 2 months ago

Apparently quite a few people have a high tolerance for what they value.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 2 months ago (2 children)

If this was just McDonalds, shouldn't there be a Burger King that didn't raise prices to try to gain back market share?

And if this was all fast food joints, is there a common reason besides greed that it happened? If it was just greed, you would think one of their competitors could WALMART (lower prices until competition dies) them.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 2 months ago (1 children)

Thats because they have formed an oligopoly.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 2 months ago

A loose one but yes... They dream of set up like health insurance for example

[–] [email protected] 16 points 2 months ago

Because they aren't competing in the way free market ideologists say they should. It generally takes a 200 level economics class less than a day to figure out a price cartel is far better for the companies involved. I'm sure the professionals have their back channels and third party price consultants already figured out.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 2 months ago

Based on the comments here, McDonalds probably made the graphic.

Everyone is more focused on how it should have been done rather then fuming at McDonalds for price gouging.

[–] [email protected] -3 points 2 months ago (1 children)
[–] [email protected] 3 points 2 months ago (1 children)
[–] [email protected] 3 points 2 months ago

The 4.49 bar is higher than 5.39. It's literally disinformation

[–] [email protected] 6 points 2 months ago

2024 their sales went down for the first time, so they cut the prices a bit on some meals, but you get a small drink and a small frie like we're fucking stupid. If you up it back to medium fries and drink it's the same shitty overpriced deal.

It got me over the idea of stopping for fast food. Fuckem

[–] [email protected] 1 points 2 months ago

Im not sure how infuriating this is at least for me. I always knew I ate to much fast food but it was just to cheap and convenient and hard to kick. Now I pretty much don't buy it. In the last few years I have only had it a few times and it was under the most stressful of situations (wife in the hospital and running around and late at night and just needed something to fill the stomach). Fast food becoming to expensive to not think about budget wise is one of the few good things to come out of the recent inflation. Especially since I don't use smartphones or apps there of.

[–] [email protected] 22 points 2 months ago (1 children)

I was just talking about this with a friend the other day, but it's really not worth it to go to these fast food places anymore even if you do like the food. I remember when, speaking to my friend, we would go to BK in high school and get a couple of "buck doubles", because Burger King used to run a promotion where you could get two double cheeseburgers for two dollars. It was honestly a great deal. Then the shrinkflation kicked in and over time the size of the food became smaller and smaller. Then, the actual currency inflation hit, and fast food companies used the increased price of beef, chicken and other such ingredients as an excuse to gouge the hell out of their prices. Now, if I were to go to BK and get my usual fare, I would be lucky to leave paying less than $16. For like, $4 extra (not including tip) I could go to the Chili's across the street and get an actual restaurant quality burger, and a side, and a beverage and be more than satisfied.

These fast food places are completely off their rocker if they think these prices are reasonable. Inflation is going down, so we as consumers need to stop buying their shit so they can't justify keeping prices so insanely high. McDonalds and other fast food places are the biggest bulk purchaser of raw ingredients, so you bet that they have an insane amount of negotiating power to convince farmers and ranchers to supply the stuff they need for below market rate in bulk quantities.

If you are really craving that unique fast food flavor that you can only get at your favorite chain, let me tell you, there are YouTube channels with copycat recipes that can be made quicker and cheaper than the time it takes to drive to the nearest chain location, order, pay, get your food, leave, and come back to your house to eat it. And they taste almost the same or better in most cases because you make it yourself so you can add as much of the flavorful stuff as you want.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 2 months ago

Kind of crazy that I can get a large pizza and a 2 liter from Pizza Hut for the cost of a single meal at Jack in the Box.

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