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There’s No Dancing Around It: Apple’s Vision Pro Was An Ugly Dud (www.techdirt.com)
submitted 6 days ago by [email protected] to c/[email protected]
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from the words-are-but-wind dept

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[–] [email protected] 14 points 6 days ago (1 children)

I mean I want one but the only reason I don’t have one is because I’m not paying $3500 for one. And even if I could get one used for under $1000, I’m still not because a majority of customers feel the same way, so this was DOA for that reason alone. No developer is developing anything fun for this en masse with no customer base.

I think a majority of people are in this boat. People flock to anything with the apple logo on it, but this was just too damn expensive.

That headset is more expensive than most MacBooks, just for reference.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 6 days ago

And because of that lack of dev support, it can do less than a MacBook

[–] [email protected] 5 points 6 days ago

It's a tech demo at this point, not a product. Tim Cook wanted something to cement his legacy so they released it even though the technology was not at all ready yet. The potential is impressive but we're years away.

Say what you want about Steve Jobs. But his timing during his second stint at Apple was unrivaled. He knew what to bet on and when. And he wasn't afraid to go all in and bet the company on it.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 6 days ago

Tech Press Derides Tech Press For Doing Tech Press Things.

Also, no mention of, or comparison to, AI. At least Apple created a viable product somebody wanted.

[–] [email protected] -2 points 6 days ago (4 children)

Did people get motion sickness from these. I know VR is diff, but the PS VR2 make my head hurt after 20 min or so.

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[–] [email protected] 21 points 6 days ago (4 children)

It's an ugly dud just like every VR headset because the technology for displays, processing, and batteries make them look like gigantic, heavy ski goggles.

Plus there's no applications. Games are cool, socializing is cool (I guess), and porn is porn, but what can I do with it? It's like releasing the first Macintosh without MacWrite or MacPaint.

[–] [email protected] 18 points 6 days ago (5 children)

It's fine if you don't want one, but my VR headset get used daily and was a great investment. Once you get used to good VR games, the rest of the video games in 2D just begin to pale in comparison. One example is Assetto Corsa (racing sim) which I could not win any races in in 2D standard mode, but when I played in VR my 3D sense of distance allowed me to actually race competitively enough to win for a change. Also it's just pretty rad to drive racecars in full 3D view, getting the full experience of moving at high speed.

And it's absolutely not true that there's "no applications" for VR. You just don't know about them because you're against it. In my household the primary applications are gaming and exercise. There are a number of VR games that require the player to physically move a lot, enough to break a sweat on every session.

IMO the only thing wrong with Apple's Vision Pro is the high price. I spent $1000 on my VR system and that was a lot. So when you get into the triple-thousand dollar ballpark, your market is just too tiny to grow into anything soon.

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[–] [email protected] 26 points 6 days ago (1 children)

wheres the first party stuff at LEAST? like garage band couldve been amazing.. or logic or reason, or maps.. wheres the tilt brush and 3d modelers? rollercoaster tycoon would shred in this.

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[–] [email protected] 12 points 6 days ago (2 children)

They said this about iPads and Apple Watches too. Eventually this will be a big deal. It’s still pretty early though.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 6 days ago

Until Apple makes a device that's as capable as the Vision but as unobtrusive as a pair of glasses, it's going to remain a niche item. The Apple Watch, as you mentioned, has the benefit of being the same general form factor as a watch. iPads are just fancy notebooks.

As much as he wishes it was true, Tim Cook is no Steve Jobs or Jony Ive.

(For reference, both devices you mentioned, as well as all of Apple's successful devices since the first iPod, were products of their marketing genius.)

[–] [email protected] 11 points 6 days ago (1 children)

"No wifi. Less space than a Nomad. Lame." - Slashdot reacting to the first iPod

[–] [email protected] 8 points 6 days ago

Blackberry went hard against the iPhones’ lack of physical keyboard when it was announced too.

[–] [email protected] 12 points 6 days ago (2 children)

No support for VR or controllers. What a complete failure of design.

[–] [email protected] -1 points 6 days ago

I would drop apple stock. Everything they work on is a flop recently.
5g modem , apple car, lightning, VR, apple tv is not profitable etc.

[–] [email protected] 46 points 6 days ago (10 children)

I went and did the Apple demo. I was there for something else at the time, and they had an opening, so I jumped on it. I highly recommend doing the demo, it’s honestly really freaking impressive. I’m not positive what the killer app is for it yet, or if this is just a step in long term AR/MR, but what they’ve done is really impressive. Yes, it’s expensive as hell, and my suspicion is that long term the displays will be replaced with a waveguide (Stanford’s looks pretty good at this point), so it won’t need the external-facing display, but they’ve got the head and hand-tracking in a good spot, as well as the gestures needed for it.

Maybe, the killer app will be the overlay itself, where it uses a camera/location/audio to see what’s going on and present more context. Looking at a menu? Okay, I’ve had this and this and liked it, but their X I’m not a fan of. I need Y from the grocery store, where is it on the shelves… more than anything, I think that they saw what Google glass could become capable of, and thought that the phone as it is now (screen, etc) was going to become obsolete at some point, and they were terrified of losing that race.

[–] [email protected] 33 points 6 days ago (4 children)

For the specs of what it is and what else is out there, it's actually a really good price.

People like to compare it to the cheapest headsets out there, but it has specs that beat the highest end headsets out there and it's cheaper than those.

When the Apple Vision pro came out, the closest device sporting similar specs would be the Varjo XR-3 which was only available to Enterprise users. It cost $7k plus a $1500 yearly subscription, plus you needed a powerful computer to run it.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=REo1ugX5GSI

Basically, hardware wise, it's good, but for it's actual uses it's not worth the $3500.

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[–] [email protected] 15 points 6 days ago

Would have been fine if it didn't cost a kidney and they'd invested in app development more.

Too closed off. Too expensive.

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