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[–] [email protected] 6 points 2 weeks ago (26 children)

The 3.5MM jack isn't coming back, but having USB-C adapters would be a good compromise. I don't see any major phone maker shipping them though, and you know Apple would charge $40 for it. Even Anker's is like $18, and they are the current "good, but not crazy expensive" accessory brand.

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[–] [email protected] 79 points 2 weeks ago

Obvioisly if someone's on speaker phone it's because they want you to join in the conversation. It's your duty to gather round and give your loud & uninformed opinions

[–] [email protected] 176 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago) (18 children)

Bring back the headphone jack. Dumping the 3.5mm jack is what brought this on.

It is simple as that. I do not want to worry about the headphones being charged and losing another charging case and making more room for another thing to charge where i charge everything else.

I do not want that at all.

It was the dumbest thing to make me need batteries for headphones. And I don't do any of this stuff that is in the article. But BRING BACK THE JACK.

[–] [email protected] 34 points 2 weeks ago

I am still salty about this. I was generally neutral about Apple until the headphone thing, and now I just loathe the iPhone for forcing the bullshit of Bluetooth headphones in the world.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 2 weeks ago (4 children)

Are those iPhones? Because I have an audio jack

[–] [email protected] 0 points 2 weeks ago

You're in the minority

[–] [email protected] 38 points 2 weeks ago (9 children)

Most recent Androids don't have an audio jack either. Samsung dropped it from their flagship products back in 2020, and that change made it slowly throughout their line. The Google Pixels don't have headphone jacks, the Moto Edge I use doesn't have a headphone jack, etc.

Honestly, if you have a a phone made in the last few years that does have a headphone jack, I'm curious to know what kind.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

I've got a Samsung A71 5G with a headphone jack - I recommend it highly except the lack of cases available for it. I shy away from non Samsung android solely due to https://apps.samsung.com/appquery/appDetail.as?appId=com.samsung.android.soundassistant

Which, without going to the trouble of rooting, let's me tell apps to STFU regardless of their preferences.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 2 weeks ago

The A71 came out in 2020, which was about when Samsung was phasing the jacks out. And they took them out of the S line first, which I always thought was weird - for a while, you had this feature that was present in their mid range phones, but completely absent in the more expensive flagships. They're not the only ones that did that, of course, but it does seem kinda backwards.

My Moto also does per-app volume, and I agree, it's pretty rad.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

When I tried Sony's 5 IV last year, it came with a headphone jack. Most of Sony's lineup comes with it I believe.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 2 weeks ago

Sony didn't release the Xperia VI in the US this year. It's one less phone that supports an audio jack.

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[–] [email protected] 2 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

Because I have an audio jack

Does it fit a standard 3.5mm headphone set? No? Then it's a 'jack' and not a jack.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 2 weeks ago

My Moto g power 5g 2024 has a standard 3.5mm headphone jack and I bought it new. Maybe buy phones with the features you want instead of whatever the latest fad phone is?

[–] [email protected] 2 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago)

I don't even use it but every phone I've owned had/has a jack.

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[–] [email protected] 5 points 2 weeks ago

I was flying back from Jersey and on one of the flights a passenger in the front had to be told three times by a flight attendant to silence her phone. The last time we were in the middle of takeoff.

[–] [email protected] 21 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago) (4 children)

I wonder if drug dealers also do this.

(Henry's phone rings with a machine gun ringtone. He answers it on speakerphone without a second thought.)

  • Yo, Peter! What's up, man?
  • Henry, we need to talk about the new shipment of snow.
  • Yeah, what about it?
  • Tom's got a fresh batch. Just crossed the border this morning. But we need to be careful, last time it was cut with too much crap.
  • Yeah, Tom is such a greedy bastard. What do you say we skip the payment part, and just paint the walls with his brains?
  • I thought you would never ask. I'll bring the shotgun. See you at the train station at 6.
  • Cool see ya there. Bye.
  • Bye.

(Henry looks at the bewildered people around him.)

  • What are you all looking at?
[–] [email protected] 16 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago) (2 children)

You jest, but I've spent a year+ homeless, often around fentanyl/meth addicts/dealers.

I've heard conversations very similar to this, albeit with more slang, many times, either just on speaker phone, or with the volume turned up so loud without the speakerphone on that you can hear the whole convo anyway...

I've heard this many times, on buses packed with people, at encampments, in shelters, at bus stops on the street, etc.

They don't look around bewildered and surprised afterward. They act jubilant, cocksure.

They don't give a fuck.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago)

Reality is too absurd. You just can't make satire of it when life is already satire of whatever delusional fantasies I have in my head.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 2 weeks ago

This feels like something all the dealers who are selling openly on social media would do. Just stupid as fuck

[–] [email protected] 5 points 2 weeks ago

Sounds like an Ed Wuncler III spin off. “The fuck y’all looking at?”

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[–] [email protected] 113 points 2 weeks ago (6 children)

How do people not realize this?

Take your phone off speaker phone. It isn't a difficult concept. Entitled assholes. Keep your voice down so you don't irritate the hell out of others. I don't want to hear about your intestines. (BTW not aiming this at the op just at those that can't figure this out.)

[–] [email protected] 18 points 2 weeks ago (3 children)

Take your phone off speaker phone.

Kids and idiots base their phone usage off vapid camera-ready idiots on reality TV whose entire usage is to play for an audience. They don't understand that holding their phone like a slice of pizza

  • is against the design
  • makes it harder to hear
  • ruins the noise cancellation
  • looks absolutely ridiculous
  • may be delicious. Try it!

And so it's "monkey see, monkey do."

[–] [email protected] 9 points 2 weeks ago

I'm Norwegian, and travelled to the US in 2004. I remember people on the bus using their phones like this. On public transport. Never saw that in Norway back then.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

I don't know about this. In my experience, the speakerphone speaker is way higher quality and easier to hear than the normal phone one. I just don't make phone calls

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[–] [email protected] 8 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

I had a flight back home from Vegas not too long ago and there was a loud woman who could not shut up near me. Even with my earbuds in I could still hear her going on about nonsense. And when we were trying to deplane there was a couple near me as well who were very vocal about how frustrated they were that it was taking so long for people to get off, because they just had to go smoke a cigarette 🙄

[–] [email protected] 113 points 2 weeks ago (6 children)

Calling out rude people needs to be normalized. Stop being polite to those who aren't.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 2 weeks ago

Calling out rude people needs to be normalized.

"It looks like it's hard to hear when you use it like that. Why don't you use it like a phone?"

[–] [email protected] 57 points 2 weeks ago (3 children)

Have fun with that...

I have called out rude people both politely and bluntly. Always is a conflict. So, just prepared to get into it.

[–] [email protected] 14 points 2 weeks ago

I do by joining into the conversation. People get offended but shut up, walk away, or call the person back later. In an airport or worse yet, an airplane I don't worry about the conflict. On a subway, different story.

[–] [email protected] 9 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

I have, too, depending on the size of the person rude.

It's weird... almost like rude people don't like to be called rude and are happy to be rude in response to being called rude.

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[–] [email protected] 38 points 2 weeks ago (2 children)

Lots of people are intentionally rude, hoping someone says something because they're addicted to rage and want to be "attacked" for something they feel is acceptable.

They'll immediately escalate, and especially in America you have no idea who has a gun. Making a reasonable request can be met with screaming and if you respond in kind then they feel "threatened".

Doesn't really matter what happens at trial, a crazy person that was looking for conflict just pulled their gun. The next 5 minutes matter more than the next five decades.

This means their current behavior becomes normalized, so now everyone is acting like it, people respond to anything with aggression because acting mentally unstable works. It makes the other person go away until you do it to someone even more unhinged.

A polite request to someone like that is a sign of weakness and guarantees an escalation, so even reasonable people stop being polite and start with direction.

The craziest are directing society.

It's not new and it's not the first time, but it rarely works out well for society.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

This is why you make sure to video the interaction.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

That matters at the trial...

But like I said, in that situation what happens in the next five minutes matters more than anything else. Whether that unhinged person decides to shoot you or not.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 2 weeks ago

No argument here.

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