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Assuming I have a time horizon >10 years.

Edit: thanks for all the replies!!

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[–] [email protected] 27 points 2 days ago

It would be worth it with even $10. Do it.

[–] [email protected] 68 points 2 days ago

Yes. So much yes.

[–] [email protected] 32 points 2 days ago (7 children)

Yes, in 35 years with compound interest that would end up between 35-85k ;) sounds great to me

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[–] [email protected] 9 points 2 days ago

Yes. If you can afford it, dumping that money into an ETF like VT, VTI, or VOO every month for the next 10 years is very likely to result in you turning a profit. Start with a Roth IRA and don't bother with a standard brokerage account until you're able to max out the contribution limit. If you want to do anything more complicated than buy big low cost ETFs study up first and go slow.

[–] [email protected] 44 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Yes. Investing is always worth it unless you have credit card debit.

Set it up to automatically invest into the lowest fee index fund your broker offers.

[–] [email protected] 21 points 2 days ago (10 children)

The lowest fee ETHICAL index fund. Careless investing is how we got evil corporations.

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[–] [email protected] 32 points 2 days ago (2 children)

That's 600/yr and a long enough horizon that most diverse portfolios are likely to be net positive (I'm seeing about 5,000 gained with 8% growth in a basic savings calculator)

I'd spend those 10 years trying to free up cash flow but time's a powerful weapon regardless

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[–] [email protected] 9 points 2 days ago (4 children)

Do you have emergency money?

First start emergency fund, then take care of debt. Then build a savings for emergency fund, then invest.

[–] [email protected] -2 points 2 days ago (4 children)

Emergency fund money should be in a HYSA at least if not index funds.

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[–] [email protected] 34 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago) (6 children)

As much as I hate to send you to Reddit, the r/personalfinance flowchart is hard to beat for most people. I’d recommend you start there to make sure you’re not overlooking something like your emergency fund.

Reddit’s r/personalfinance flowchart for personal income

[–] [email protected] 2 points 2 days ago (2 children)

hard to beat for most people.

*Utterly irrelevant for most people

Sorted that for you. What the hell is 401k, Roth, medical debt?

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[–] [email protected] 3 points 2 days ago (3 children)

Is there a reason to focus on 401k (beyond the employer match) before HSA? Isn't HSA more tax savings advantageous, even if just limited to health care expenses?

[–] [email protected] 2 points 2 days ago

Not really if you exclude the employer match from consideration.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 2 days ago

Can’t retire on it I guess

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[–] [email protected] 6 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Link is broken for me over on infosec.pub.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 2 days ago

Link is broken for me when I try opening it in a new tab. Something is up with imgur.

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[–] [email protected] 5 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Yes, saving is like a muscle you need to do it to get better with it. It's far easier to turn 50/months into 200/month as your income grows, than starting at 200/month.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago)

Yeah, finding some free ETF saving plan and investing 50 a month will give you some experience in investing. You can learn about, what's an ETF, what's diversification and how you react personally to seeing the number go up and down.

One has to start somewhere.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 2 days ago (1 children)

I just put extra money in a 5% high yield savings account. It's not exciting, but there's no risk and it will pay off over time

[–] [email protected] 5 points 2 days ago (2 children)

There’s also hardly any reward (comparatively speaking). Yields are crazy high right now on savings accounts, but they’re going to continue to drop, vs investing in the stock market (over the long term) is much more likely to maintain a much higher rate of return. Even at 5%, you’re really only getting about 2% growth since inflation is stuck at 3% right now. That compares to a long term average in the stock market of 7-9% after inflation.

Not to say that OP should do that, necessarily. Especially if they haven’t built their emergency fund which is far more important than investing, until you have a safe amount.

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[–] [email protected] 9 points 2 days ago

It's honestly probably better putting that amount of money into trying to get a better job over that time period via education, or taking time off to apply for new positions, or something similar.

$6000 total investment over 10 years even with decent interest on top would be made up in less than 2 years with a $5k raise.

[–] [email protected] 9 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Yes. I started with 50/month using Autopilot to get in on the Pelosi investment portfolio. I am up 18% for the year.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 2 days ago

S&P is like 23% this year, chasing Pelosi has apparently underperformed.

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[–] [email protected] 29 points 2 days ago (2 children)

It's worth saving - investing (I assume you mean in the stock market/index/mutual fund) probably wouldn't yield very significant growth but it is worth saving what you can.

[–] [email protected] 20 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago) (1 children)

Investing accidently helped me save. If I have money in an account, and I need to use it, I will, but by buying stocks and bitcoin, I don't have that money, I have things that will increase in value that I can sell for money. And there have been a few desperate times that I had to do that, but my brain is far more unlikely to take a hypothetical future loss, than spend all my money today.

[–] [email protected] 17 points 2 days ago (2 children)

That’s what bitcoin really is: a commodity, not a currency.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 2 days ago

I remember back s decade ago and using it to buy a coffee. It was slow back then. Can't think of the time it takes now.

[–] [email protected] 10 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago) (1 children)

Truth. Lots of money to be made in crypto but it's basically gambling outside of eth and BTC. I make decent returns playing with memecoins but you have to watch it for awhile and know when to sell/buy etc... for example, now it's a good time to throw money into Shiba Inu coin. It's down a lot, which is normal, but it'll go back to higher numbers soon, as it always does. Once you get a feel for what a normal low and high are you can just set auto buy/sell at those points and make decent profits.

Of course, when it comes to crypto, Bitcoin and eth are more like commodities and are generally safe. Shit coins are high risk but but $50 in a shit coin could be $150 overnight if you know what to look for.

Edit - don't fuck with big money in crypto unless you're willing to lose it, but $10 here and there can be fun and often profitable.

[–] [email protected] 11 points 2 days ago (1 children)

I am gonna take that as financial advice and dump my life savings in shiba inu, thanks.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 2 days ago

Awesome. I'll take the the standard 10% unless/until, you lose your ass. Then I'll just pretend I don't know you.

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