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Nikki Haley sides with Alabama Supreme Court on IVF ruling: 'Embryos, to me, are babies'
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Why is Nikki Haley starting a war on Christianity? Does she hate Jesus? Does she think she knows more than God? She is oppressing good religious people who follow the bible which says life begins at first breath. She will burn in hell.
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Do they have social security numbers? Can the hospital claim them as dependents? Can an eighteen-year-old embryo vote?
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Hey you fucking self-hating misogynistic dipshit, if "embryos" are the same as "babies" then why the fuck do we have different words to describe them?
Almost like words fucking matter.
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Better start protesting outside IVF clinics then considering they destroy unused embryos.
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Haley, to me, is an idiot.
Paramecium? Baby.
Amoeba? Baby.
Toxoplasmosis gondii? Believe it or not, also baby.
Hey, we don't even have to leave humanity.
Cancer? Baby.
In fact...
Embryo:
Cancer:
Second one's got more cells. That means it's more of a baby, right?
Hmm, unique DNA? Check
Living parasitically off of another human being? Check.
Potentially fatal? Check
Yep, cancer is a baby.
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Thank you for bringing this into my life
King Gizz is awesome, no clue how they manage to drop banger album after banger album, especially with how many they have.
i love that i found kglw helping this thread.
Someone else came up with this.
Imagine you're in a clinic. Fire breaks out. You have a choice; save a living baby or 5,000 frozen embryos.
Very simple. The living baby is a piece of shit, we only care about the unborn.
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I would love for someone to ask this to anyone who thinks an egg is a baby.
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We are now literally one step from "ovulation is murder."
That's not an exaggeration. The only step past "IVF embryos are babies" is "ovulation kills a baby."
The cheek cells in spit have a full set of chromosomes and given the right conditions could be turned into a growing embryo. Guess that means dentists are mass murderers now, all those little potential lives going down that suction tube of death.
Technically, ovulation without fertilization would be the benchmark.
Also, you probably can't miscarry. Which happens 10-15% of the time on average, and is much higher for some individuals.
These people are out to lunch. How stupid, uneducated, and emotional could someone possibly be?
The only people who are stupider are undecided or non-voters.
Five years from now, red states will have laws that say every woman's menstrual tissue must be collected for analysis in case the egg was fertilized without implanting. If this happens, she will be charged with murder.
Oh, and women will still need to buy their own menstrual products and pay sales tax on them.
You don’t have to ban menstruation just make it $5000 per tampon
Not to mention the statistic that ~50% of fertilized eggs fail to implant. So getting your period may be evidence of murder.
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I think they draw the line at fertilization, but everybody does loves to shift their goalposts on the hill they choose to die on.
When have they ever drawn a line?
They draw the line at women having equal rights.
"Fertilization" is a continuum, not a moment in time. I know everyone thinks of that magic moment when the one sperm breaks through the outer membrane, from the video we all watched in 7th grade. But that "moment" could be anytime during a span of days, and there are a hundred "moments" before and after that determine whether the egg will be viable and attach to the uterine wall. And then there are a thousand more moments that determine if the uterus is hospitable and the mother capable of supporting a pregnancy to term. And then there are a million more moments between when the pregnancy begins and the baby is born and separated from the mother. Until that point, objectively, it is not yet an independent person.
It's not just shifting goalposts. Fertilization is a line in the sand under water. Theoretically, you could say it exists, but you're going to have to redraw the line every time you try to find it, and it's gone pretty much as soon as you look away.
Anyone who chooses to die on that hill is a religious fruitcake, devoid of value as a thinking human.
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Those are some ugly “babies”…
This is the best summary I could come up with:
Ambassador Nikki Haley said Wednesday that frozen embryos created through in-vitro fertilization are “babies,” siding with a recent Alabama Supreme Court decision that raised concerns among doctors and patients about the future of the procedure.
Later on Wednesday, the University of Alabama at Birmingham announced that it was pausing IVF treatments in response to the state Supreme Court ruling.
Asked if legislation and rulings like the one in Alabama could have a chilling effect on families using IVF to become parents, Haley said, “This is one where we need to be incredibly respectful and sensitive about it."
She has repeatedly calling for national "consensus" on abortion in debates instead of the bans and restrictions favored by some of her primary opponents.
As Haley presses her increasingly long-shot bid for the White House against former President Donald Trump, she has warned that ongoing legal proceedings could hamper his electability.
Asked if she could vote for him if he were the nominee and he was convicted of a felony, Haley dodged, saying “those are hypotheticals” and questioning whether Trump would even stay in the 2024 presidential race at that point.
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