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[–] [email protected] 0 points 7 months ago (1 children)

As a parent of a teenager who has tonic-clonic seizures (aka grand mal), this story made me nauseous. A patient recovering from a seizure has absolutely no ability to respond or understand what's going on. Police should be helping and making sure he's on his side, not tasing him. Whoever these cops are should be fired immediately. I hope Mr Frankel bankrupts the department.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 7 months ago (1 children)

We need to fire all cops and have more paramedics and social workers instead.

[–] [email protected] -1 points 7 months ago (1 children)
[–] [email protected] 1 points 7 months ago

So they can come out and, best case scenario, they tell you there's nothing they can do? Or show up and wait on standby for the criminal to finish what they're doing a la Uvalde?

Or would you prefer the come out to a potential burglary call and end up shooting the woman who called the police in the head?

Good thing we have so many of them to keep us safe during all these crimes. 🙄

[–] [email protected] 1 points 7 months ago (1 children)

Maybe we should defund the police.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 7 months ago (1 children)

Stop that, please.

That entire "defund the police" is the dumbest idea out there. You NEED police, any society needs police. Either that, or next time your being assaulted or robbed, well, sucks to be you.

What the US needs is a completely restructured police system, from the ground up. It needs officers that received training, not the 3-6 months dicking around with idiots that teach them "anyways, then I started blasting". It needs restructuring of yhe laws so that they can be held accountable when they abusre their powers. They need to learn how to de-escalate situations instead of throwing oil on fires. Racism needs to be squeezed out.

This is how police works in other countries, this is why in other countries we actually like and respect police .

This also requires other changes in the US. This justice system based on revenge has to go. Focus on rehabilitation instead. You gotta limit your guns. I know that people start screeching at the idea, bit if by now it's still not clear that US citizens are NOT able to responsibly use their guns, then you have issues. You yourself might be super responsible but the next ten people are not. Take the guns away. Best would be all of it.

Those are things that will make your country nicer, and your police actually respectable.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 7 months ago (1 children)

Defund the police means take their bloated military surplus budget, reduce it to reasonable levels and channel those funds into social services instead. It doesn't mean 'erase all cops'

[–] [email protected] -1 points 7 months ago

They say something more precise

Defund the police is used uite successfully by extreme right to make centrist and moderate left look dumb

[–] [email protected] 1 points 7 months ago (1 children)

Ok let's also assume he was intoxicated. Even then why the fuck would you tase him? Should've waited for the medical personnel. Then man was in his own goddamned house. WTF!

[–] [email protected] 1 points 7 months ago (1 children)

Even then why the fuck would you tase him?

IIRC the thought the seizure induced thrashing was him resisting arrest. Of course that begs the question, why were they trying to arrest someone having a seizure (that they'd been sent to help BTW) in the first place?

[–] [email protected] 1 points 7 months ago (1 children)

Probably for committing one of the highest crimes of the land - disrespecting a police officer by not following their orders. They don’t care if he was seizing, unconscious, whatever. They will shoot to kill for such an infraction.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 7 months ago

Which order to follow…

RIP Daniel Shaver

[–] [email protected] 1 points 7 months ago

California Cops Tased a Man Having a Seizure, Then Booked Him on Bogus Charges To Cover Their Mistake

Booked Him on Bogus Charges To Cover Their Mistake

To Cover Their Mistake

Mistake

Never has a word done so much heavy lifting.