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[alt text: Text which says, "The 2 genders according to chuds". Below the text is two images. On the left is an image of Geralt from The Witcher 3, and he is labeled, "Male, parentheses (white)". On the right is an image of Ciri from The Witcher 4 trailer, and she is labeled, "Political".]

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[–] [email protected] 19 points 4 days ago (1 children)

Remember there are two religions

Christian and Political

two races

White and Political

two genders

Male and Political

[–] [email protected] 5 points 4 days ago

Two sexual orientations: Straight and political.

[–] [email protected] 10 points 4 days ago (2 children)

I wish people would just laugh at them, and tell them how fucking ridiculous they look and then promptly leave their asses behind and move on. Instead, we get news articles about a minority of people who have shit opinions about things they have no understanding of.

[–] [email protected] 8 points 4 days ago (1 children)

I wish people would just laugh at them, and tell them how fucking ridiculous they look and then promptly leave their asses behind and move on. Instead, we get news articles about a minority of people who have shit opinions about things they have no understanding of.

We tried that with GamerGate, and it didn't work. Keeping bad people away from levers of power requires constant diligence; we cannot simply dismiss and move on, because then while we are looking away, the trolls continue to build their base. I'm a strong believer in the power of memes in our modern digital age. Try to write a bunch of articles about a problem like this, and most folks will only absorb the pithy headline. Some will read the article, but mostly only college-educated folks. Instead, make a meme about it that distills the logic of your opponent down to its ridiculous conclusion, and suddenly everyone gets it. (this isn't to say we should never write an article to explore the nuance of a point, just arguing for the value of leftist memes)

We have the discussion out in the open so that the kids and other uneducated folks can read a variety of opinions. If we don't, the trolls swoop up and try to turn them into incels.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 4 days ago

Delete this post right now before the feds find it.

[–] [email protected] 10 points 4 days ago (1 children)

Kamela's early campaign of just calling Trump "weird" was all about this, for some reason she dropped it in favor of kissing the asses of the Cheneys for no payoff.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 4 days ago

It's because it was actually a Walz thing, and she sidelined Walz for some reason.

[–] [email protected] 8 points 4 days ago (1 children)

I don't really understand people saying it's not part of the lore. I did the expansions and everything. I got the ending, assuming that I remember correctly, where Ciri becomes a witcher. And in the expansions, Geralt just wanted to retire on a mountain vineyard in not-France.

One thing I was thinking of with the announcement is what would they do with the witcher powers, but from the electric punch in the preview, my guess is they're going to expand her psychic powers to take the place of witcher powers.

I'm looking foward to it. It looks kick ass.

Also - are there actually as many compaints as people make it out to be? Like I've never met anyone in real life who didn't like that a game featured a woman.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 4 days ago (1 children)

as someone who read the books (like 10 years ago so i could be wrong), I'm pretty certain it is not psychic powers, but spellcasting. Ciri trained under Yennefer and went to sorceress school for while. Geralt has the Witcher signs, which are like an elementary form of spellcasting, but Ciri learned a bit more than Geralt. Separately, she also has her warping power that is completely unique to her and very important in the lore, but I won't say more for sake of spoilers. I don't remember how much of this they cover in the games.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 4 days ago

100%! You can totally see her draw elemental magic from the water running down the cave wall then cast it as ball lightning (or electricity at least?). She uses both Quen and Igni in the trailer too though. There's also book lore about magic that could lend itself well to game play, like the costs of casting more than you've drawn and the skill required to draw from different "elemental planes." Witcher mage would be a fun build!

[–] [email protected] 17 points 5 days ago (1 children)

I just ignore the idiots. I have wanted a Ciri game ever since I played W3 almost 10 years ago.

[–] [email protected] 11 points 5 days ago

She's literally supposed to become a Witcher in her own right. Geralt isn't training her to be his eternal assistant or some kind of sidepiece, after all.

It would be neat if this leads to two storylines that sometimes intersect.

[–] [email protected] 9 points 5 days ago (1 children)

I've been slightly out of the loop on this, are incels really whining about Witcher 4 using Ciri as a protagonist because she's a woman?

[–] [email protected] 16 points 5 days ago (1 children)

No. They're whining about Witcher 4 using Ciri as a protagonist because they think she was made ugly.

Attractive women designed solely to be the object of male affection are allowed to be protagonists. When a woman stands on their own as a unique complex individual, they take issue.

[–] [email protected] 12 points 4 days ago (1 children)

Chuds thought Aloy had a beard because she had peach fuzz. They don't know what a real woman looks like and they don't want to know.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 4 days ago (3 children)

To fair, the "peach fuzz" was a superfluous addition.

As much as I enjoyed Horizon, it was very much a 'one and done' game for me. I would have liked more emphasis on replayability than skin textures and raytracing.

But that's just me. I'm old-school.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 4 days ago (1 children)

It's not an "either - or" thing. The artists modeling fine details like peach fuzz had nothing to do with the game's design and it also had no influence on how replayable the game would be.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 4 days ago (1 children)

Ofcause it does. What part of a game that gets attention is a choice.

From visuals to gameplay to sound design and so on. Everything has a priority.

And with priority comes allocation of resources.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 4 days ago* (last edited 4 days ago) (1 children)

A AAA game will have these kinds of details today, because it's expected by customers. AAA(A) games that don't (looking at you, Ubisoft, with your shoddy animations) get relentlessly mocked unless they excel in every other area. First party Sony titles in particular are expected to push technical boundaries (at least of their hardware) in some way or another. That's part of the reason why people are buying these games and the systems they are running on. This isn't an optional thing, it's not a choice, it's the baseline.

You also have to consider that even if this wasn't the case, you can't just radically change the way studios are being organized. Large studios are art-heavy in terms of their manpower, in large part because it's very easy to produce tons of game assets in parallel. It's not easy to hire or retrain people after a switch in priorities and it's much more difficult to apply the same kind of manpower to game design tasks. The old saying that nine women can't birth a baby in one month applies here as well.

Taking a rough look at the credits, Horizon Zero Dawn had 30 designers working on it (world, quest, writing, etc.). Compare this to 57 coders coding things and 148 artists creating audio and visual assets. There are other departments like production, marketing, HR, etc. that I'm not counting, but I think you get the picture.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 4 days ago

Yes, but it's by choice. Big companies aren't trying to impress nerds. Their demographic is everyone that is easily fascinated by "shiny" things.

The hardware it was made for also prioritized resolution over frames per second. So hyper realism became a focal point of many of the AAA games created. And hyper realism is a one-way street (aesthetically speaking).

It culminates in Hellblade. With ridiculously stunning visuals, but little else going for it.

At what point would you say that a game isn't a game anymore, but closer to an interactive movie?

[–] [email protected] 3 points 4 days ago

Normally drag would agree, but outing every misogynist who doesn't know what a woman looks like is a worthy goal

[–] [email protected] 4 points 4 days ago (1 children)

I would have liked more emphasis on replayability than skin textures and raytracing.

Reminds me of the whole kerfuffle of western devs bashing elden ring, a significant portion of which could be summed up as "why would you put something in the game without a big map marker showing them where it is???????"

[–] [email protected] 2 points 4 days ago* (last edited 4 days ago)

I don't know about Elden Ring. Never got into the Souls games.

But yeah, quest markers in open world games is lazy.

[–] [email protected] 13 points 5 days ago

I just had a conversation with someone about this on Lemmy a few days ago. His response was to call the choice "modern identity politics" and then back up his point by saying he always chose the female choice in games if he could. As if he did it from any belief that women are strong and capable and didn't just want to see a woman on his screen. And the comment reeks of "I'm not racist! I have a black friend!" vibes.

Anyway he ended up saying Lemmy was just like Reddit and... oh, now he's in a different thread aggravating people and saying the same thing that Lemmy is intolerant.

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