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[–] [email protected] 6 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago)

Get rich quick schemes, gambling (speculation), rug pull and pump and dump fraud, dodging taxes, malware ransoms and other illegal activities. Just like it has always been.

Unfortunately while it has legitimate uses, realistically it is used more often for crime and gray area activities. Which is a shame because the technology that enables it is interesting.

[–] [email protected] -1 points 8 months ago

I hope that more services will accept crypto as payments. For now they're either used to gamble/invest or to funnel illegal money with a small percentage being used legitimately like maybe $5 for Mullvad or something.

[–] [email protected] -5 points 8 months ago
[–] [email protected] 2 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago)

It'll make a comeback and we'll get another wave of FOMO and scams

[–] [email protected] -5 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago) (1 children)

It's all a scam and the people who buy into it are idiots. Crypto is basically on par with the stock market, horse racing, and scratchy lottery tickets.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 8 months ago

lmao lumping those all together as scams. Spoken like someone who is either too poor or too stupid to participate effectively.

[–] [email protected] 19 points 8 months ago (2 children)

It has its fans and niche uses, but I think it has too many problems to be viable as a real currently. It's volatile, is prone to hacks, lacks consumer protection, doesn't scale well, and has a huge carbon footprint. If the global banking system had things like gas wars and a "possession is ownership" philosophy then society would collapse.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 8 months ago (1 children)
[–] [email protected] 4 points 8 months ago

Periods of high transaction volume cause transaction fees to skyrocket. If there's a rush to buy something, then transaction fees will easily go 10x for an hour or so. It's like if Taylor Swift tickets went on sale, then the entire global economy stopped until they were sold out.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 8 months ago

Yeah like isn't there a guy sitting on millions and millions of dollars but he forgot his password and only has one attempt left before his account is wiped? Or another that lost his HDD with the details etc. I think it's pretty stupid to invest in something with such little security or recovery.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 8 months ago

They will be the only way to transact without being surveilled or without requiring the permission and approval of banks, payment providers, and governments. They will continue to displace banking systems in parts of the world where those are corrupt and do not have basic functionality. They will continue to enable people to do business and cooperate across borders. If we remain long enough without a unified world government, I believe the credible neutrality of cryptocurrency, which is higher than any fiat currency can have, will likely cause one of them to become the global reserve currency.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 8 months ago (1 children)

Fuck banks and fuck the banking system.

Paying for shit through my browser via an almost-immediately settled transaction is great and I wish it was more commonly accepted. Lots of growing pains ahead but the concept isn't going anywhere. There's also plenty of valid criticism of current implementations but writing off the entire idea is just foolish.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago) (2 children)

Fuck banks and fuck the banking system.

I'm sorry to be so blunt about this, but you're kind of being a willing sucker. Inviting people to hate the banks has been the most underrated, under-the-radar, flawlessly effective political smoke-and-mirrors distraction, for generations. And here you go, just buying right into it.

As a distraction, it's absolutely perfect, because it works from every possible political angle. If you're a liberal/progressive/socialist, the banks can be a stand-in for capitalism. You can scream about the evils of the banking system, without actually using the word "capitalism," and maybe get some people onto your side.

If you're a libertarian/fiscal-conservative/anti-globalist-right-winger, you can accuse the banks of being covertly or overtly controlled by and you can feature them in all kinds of conspiracy theories about The Libs™ weakening your native nation by coupling it to the monetary systems of other nations that you dislike, etc.

If you're in the political middle (or claim to be), you can pick and choose from any of the above.

In reality, the banking system is going to be necessary for the next couple of centuries. Period. That's a fact. Nothing can change that, even if it was a good idea to change it. Which I'm not really sure of, because of all the political distraction that always surrounds the whole thing.

The fact remains: people getting all riled up about "the bankers" is music to the ears of every politician who doesn't actually have any intention of passing good laws, to help people's lives. Or repealing shitty laws that are fucking up people's lives.

If you think getting rid of the banking system would instantly solve all our problems, I've got an apparently very low-interest loan I can give you, to buy a bridge in Brooklyn.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 8 months ago

I had a really good fart while reading this, thank you.

[–] [email protected] -1 points 8 months ago (1 children)

I’m sorry to be so blunt about this, but you’re kind of being a willing sucker.

Not really a way to start a discussion so I'll just assume you aren't interested.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 8 months ago

Fuck X

Not really the way either. You said this like it’s a slogan.

[–] [email protected] 10 points 8 months ago

They will continue to be used for shady business, they will eventually consume more energy than all of Europe combined, they will never be a legit currency used for normal stuff.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago) (2 children)

I expect that Elon or some other famous person is going to use Dogecoin again to scam their fans and make a quick buck in the near future.

I like that Ethereum's system changed to use far less energy and thus emit less carbon.

I guess Monero can be useful if you want to buy drugs online or whatever, which I'm fine with.

I know that some people feel really strongly about crypto, either positively or negatively, but I'm mostly disinterested. It's not going to become a particularly useful currency any time soon and it's way too volatile, so if I ever decide to invest in something I'll pick normal stocks instead.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 8 months ago (1 children)

Ethereum's new solution makes it more centralized, which makes it less adherent to crypto's general principles.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 8 months ago

Ethereum has always been centralized and has never adhered to general principles of crypto. It's premined, ico,..

[–] [email protected] 3 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago) (1 children)

It's sad to see XMR being perceived as a currency to buy drugs online.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 8 months ago (1 children)
[–] [email protected] 1 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago)

Partly, but there are people like me out there that don't use XMR to do illegal things. It's like saying only criminals benefit from privacy.

[–] [email protected] 12 points 8 months ago (1 children)

I think that frankly, we need them around but solely for transactions. treating them as anything else or positively promoting them under some pump and dump scheme is a big NO. But for example, using something like monero over TOR to buy a VPN to avoid censorship under a dictatorship? yes, we begrudgingly need it around for stuff like that.

[–] [email protected] 8 points 8 months ago (1 children)

What a lot of people forgot is that this was the whole point of cryptocurrency to begin with.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 8 months ago

It's really frustrating watching the furry community flip out every few months or so when a credit card company pulls the rug from under thousands of artists. All the problems that people complain about like power usage are solved by currencies that aren't bitcoin. But nobody wants that to be true, because being right is the most important thing in the world.

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