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[–] [email protected] 0 points 5 hours ago

I'll just wrap my router in aluminium foil, that'll do it.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 8 hours ago (1 children)
[–] [email protected] 0 points 8 hours ago

MIT is just a factory for making cool tech that seemingly exclusively gets abused by our government/large corporations (aka our actual government)

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[–] [email protected] 0 points 14 hours ago

So that's how they figure out when to call you.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 17 hours ago* (last edited 17 hours ago) (1 children)

Help us map your home and your habits. You can reject this free offer for $9.99 dollars per month. Terms and conditions apply.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 5 hours ago

Terms and conditions include us ignoring your privacy preferences (may depend on geographic location and/or political leadership)

[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 day ago (2 children)

Any open source implementations of this?

[–] [email protected] 0 points 15 hours ago

Yeah this has been around for some time now, here's a paper on the implementation of it.

https://arxiv.org/abs/2301.00250

[–] [email protected] 0 points 16 hours ago

I'm guessing it assumes you're carrying your phone and infers motion from changes in the signal?

Or just uses the phone connecting and disconnecting to signal departure and arrival, in which case Home Assistant has done that for awhile now.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 day ago

Or don't! (at extra cost)

[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 day ago (2 children)
[–] [email protected] 0 points 15 hours ago* (last edited 15 hours ago)

Alert: the Wi-Fi has detected high-waisted mom jeans.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 day ago

colonel im trying to infiltrate a home but the clap of my asscheeks keeps being detected by the wifi signal

[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 day ago

Pretty sure this was mentioned in Cryptonomicon (1999).

[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 day ago (1 children)
[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 day ago (1 children)

This tech is still relevant in 2025?

[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 day ago (1 children)
[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (4 children)

I thought OpenWrt was kind of dead. Everyone uses pfsense as their open source router.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 9 hours ago

IMO, pfsense is for if you want to use an x86 PC as a router, while OpenWRT is for if you want your ARM-based commodity home router to run open source firmware.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 15 hours ago

it's not just for routers. you can (and should) use it on your access points.

I have six APs in my house for 100% WiFi coverage inside and outside my home.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 16 hours ago

I’m actually so incredibly lazy I use a firewalla purple. And I love it. You’ll never take it away from me! Hiss!!!!

[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Are you thinking of ddwrt? OpenWrt is alive and thriving

[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 day ago (1 children)

ddwrt is what I was thinking of

[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 day ago

Can second the other comments. OpenWRT is alive and well in parallel to PfSense. Different use cases for each.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 2 days ago (1 children)

All this is implying is that they are capturing this data anyways and offering you a peek at it for money with the guise that its for your safety.

There is likely no way for you to shut it off tracking you everywhere in your own home unless you pay them to access the settings for this feature.

They likely can track you behaviors with this and know when you take a shit, when you jerk-off/fuck your spouse, when you watch media, etc using machine-learning on the wifi specrum of your locations, signal shape, and duration.

Fuck this crazy invasive shit to piss.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 day ago (2 children)

Ask for just a plain modem and buy your own WiFi router. If that isn't an option, disable the routing functions and turn off the WiFi and buy your own router.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 day ago (2 children)

Does owning my own hardware prevent the service provider from getting this data?

[–] [email protected] 0 points 18 hours ago

Yeah, they used something like fluctuations in the WiFi signal, so you can turn it off. I suppose they could broadcast secretly without an SSID, but there are apps that will show it, so I doubt they would.

They can also see more than just movement: https://www.popularmechanics.com/technology/security/a42575068/scientists-use-wifi-to-see-through-walls/

[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 day ago

They would have to have access to the wifi piece specifically, so asside from them hacking the router, which is unlikely..

It makes it a lot less likely.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 day ago (1 children)

I haven't had a provider supplied modem or router in well over a decade. Not everyone has the know how to do this but it's not hard to learn and they should learn.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 6 hours ago

How hard it'll be depends on the provider. My provider's customer support explicitly told me that it is technically allowed but it is their policy to offer absolutely no help with that whatsoever for "liability reasons", and I'd be on my own if I got my router stuck in a misconfigured bridge mode where I can't access any settings anymore to fix things. They also told me to find my subscriber credentials on my own if I wanted to use a 3rd party modem.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Reminds me of The Dark Knight when Batman activates something similar using cell signals.

We really ought to stop fucking creating the Torment Nexus, jfc.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 day ago

https://youtu.be/IRELLH86Edo

I believe this is what you're referring to

[–] [email protected] 0 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Awesome tech, if (and only if) you control it end to end, with no corporation involved in that process.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 2 days ago (2 children)

That's why you buy your own router.

I'm using chromecast for streaming to my television. But I accidentally cut my internetcord and guess what doesn't work without internet eventhough it doesn't strictly need internet? Exactly, I'm getting rid of the chromecast soon.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Your telling me a streaming device doesn't work without internet. I'm shocked shocked I fell you.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 day ago (1 children)

It should be able to work on lan as well, in my opinion

[–] [email protected] 0 points 17 hours ago (1 children)

Are you trying to cast or screen share? Screen share should work over LAN I think.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 12 hours ago

Screenshare does work over lan, according to the documentation, but the chromecast doesn't even start up properly. It onky says (full screen) there is no internet connection.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 day ago (1 children)

When streaming content to a chromecast it usually makes a direct connection to the content source, not going through the device you're casting from. In limited cases like when sharing your screen to the chromecast it does only go from your device to the chromecast without internet, but that's rarely used because it's power and data intensive to your device. I guess you're right on the internet not being 'strictly' needed but it's used for a reason.

Should still buy your own router though, and move away from google services πŸ‘

[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Yeah "google bad" but this isn't one of those instances. They've been very upfront about the functionality of the Chromecast for a very long time

[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 day ago

"We're evil. Deal with it." -Google

[–] [email protected] 0 points 2 days ago (1 children)

With only one payment you can allow us to invade your privacy... Even more than we already do.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Pretty sure it’s, β€œwith one more monthly payment, we will give you some insight into a small price of information we already know β€œ

[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 day ago

yeah im like. oh they are collecting it but if you pay they will give you a copy.

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