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This isn't your college or work place break room. If people are saying something you disagree with you can just say it and you won't be fired or ostracized for it. Yeah, people will probably get angry and say mean things to you but those are just words which can be ignored. Offence is taken, not given.

This is mostly for the lurkers who upvote unpopular opinions but don't comment. You can speak up - you're not alone.

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[–] [email protected] 2 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago) (2 children)

If people are saying something you disagree with you can just say it and you won't be fired or ostracized for it. Yeah, people will probably get angry and say mean things to you but those are just words which can be ignored.

What is the purpose, then? If I can't ignore others, others can ignore you. This only lead to useless, unsatisfactory, unproductive and dumb arguments with random people on internet.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 2 months ago (1 children)

I would probably argue the opposite. What is the purpose of a community where no actual discussions are had, and people just look at and upvote memes?

[–] [email protected] 2 points 2 months ago

You can always find a community where respectful discussion is allowed and encourage, and if you can't, you can create it. Not all places are mean to debate.

And people just really like memes.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 2 months ago (1 children)

Freedom to speak doesn't imply freedom to be heard. People are free to ignore you even when you're saying popular things. If you don't want to speak unless everyone is listening, then don't.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 2 months ago

Fair point, totally agree.

[–] [email protected] 13 points 2 months ago (4 children)

Pineapple is allowed on pizza

[–] [email protected] 2 points 2 months ago

So are anchovies

[–] [email protected] 9 points 2 months ago

Fuck the haters, pineapple pizza is delicious.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 2 months ago

That's the spirit!

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[–] [email protected] 4 points 2 months ago

It's just words on a screen. Easy enough to scroll on by without commenting. On my screen, upvote usually means 'thanks for sharing' rather then agreement.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 2 months ago

YSK too that not everything that's said has equal value or merit.

This is important for both expressing and hearing/reading opinions.

[–] [email protected] 18 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago) (1 children)

On the other hand, no one is obligated to listen to you, and freedom of speech does not equal freedom from the consequences of said speech. If you voice an unpopular opinion, be prepared to not be popular.

[–] [email protected] -2 points 2 months ago

Absolutely. In-fact I'd say most people aren't blocking enough. If someone thinks of free speech as freedom to be an asshole then they should be blocked by everyone and left to shout into the void. However, I don't think the unpopularity follows you outside the thread you were saying unpopular things at. The vast majority of people wont remember you.

[–] [email protected] 10 points 2 months ago (3 children)

I've often been banned, blocked, or mass downvoted for saying something unpopular.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 2 months ago (1 children)

Join an instance with downvotes disabled :p

[–] [email protected] 2 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago) (3 children)

Downvotes can also be disabled in the settings.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 2 months ago (1 children)

Doesn't that diable all votes?

[–] [email protected] 1 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago) (1 children)

No, there are separate settings for up- and downvotes. I don't see downvotes myself but I see upvotes.

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[–] [email protected] 0 points 2 months ago

My instance doesn't even keep them. They get dropped before they hit our database.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 2 months ago

Good to know!

[–] [email protected] 0 points 2 months ago

Just like you're free to say it, others are free to not listen. If an user blocks you then so be it - I'm sure you've blocked people as well. Downvotes on the other hand are equivalent to mean comments; it can just be ignored. Getting banned is a real risk though, I'll give you that, but then again, you can just make a new account.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 2 months ago (2 children)

Downvotes mean pretty much nothing

[–] [email protected] 6 points 2 months ago (2 children)

And that's why I tag users lol (sorry, wouldn't normally share this, but enjoyed the irony of it being in this thread).

[–] [email protected] 0 points 2 months ago (2 children)

You got anything on me? (I had to unblock you to find this comment)

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[–] [email protected] -4 points 2 months ago (4 children)

I wish Lemmy would have this feature as default. I'd rather give people few chances rather than immediately blocking them when they say something utterly moronic as I do now.

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[–] [email protected] 3 points 2 months ago

True, but the first two don't.

[–] [email protected] 54 points 2 months ago (7 children)

Of course you can. You're not free from consequences of what you said though. The internet remembers EVERYTHING. Especially on federated platforms like lemmy. Some of my first messages on newsgroups in the 1990's are still floating around the internet.

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[–] [email protected] 27 points 2 months ago (1 children)

You can be fired for what you say if it is linked back to you. That actually happens pretty regularly

[–] [email protected] 109 points 2 months ago

won't be fired or ostracized for it.

Wanna bet?

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