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Summary

Elon Musk has called homelessness a “lie” and “propaganda,” claiming advocacy groups profit from maintaining high homelessness rates.

Partnering with Donald Trump, Musk is pushing for drastic federal budget cuts targeting programs for vulnerable populations, including food stamps and healthcare.

Trump’s plan includes forcing unhoused individuals into treatment or institutionalization.

Critics argue these approaches criminalize homelessness while ignoring root causes like lack of affordable housing.

Homelessness in the U.S. has reached record levels, with 650,000 people affected in 2023, prompting calls for evidence-based solutions over punitive measures.

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[–] [email protected] 37 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (1 children)

Market Capitalism needs homelessness.

If you will not make the owner's money through labor, You will help them make money as capitalist scarecrows. A warning to any laborer thinking of failing to comply.

You WILL serve the owner's greed disease, or else.

It would literally be cheaper to house them without conditions than all the conditioned programs and homeless encampment clean up costs.

But that doesn't send a message of fear.

Herp derp Freedom 🇺🇸

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[–] [email protected] 12 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Yeah, it's not the homeless people that are victims of a cruel society that has not only abandoned but also ostracized them. It's the wealthy that have to share an imperceptible amount of their wealth so that they have somewhere to sleep.

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[–] [email protected] 29 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (3 children)

"claiming advocacy groups profit from maintaining high homelessness rates."

Uhhh . . . how? "You there! Go be homeless! I need to profit from your utter lack of income."

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[–] [email protected] 26 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Elon Musk is actually bullet proof. Impervious to bullets. I guarantee it.

*Ymmv

[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 week ago

He sure is!

[–] [email protected] 19 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

Living on latitude 60 where being homeless can (and sometimes does) kill - I think the first step is giving a person who is homeless a place where they can set up a (semi)permanent home. That will go a long way towards solving the underlying issues which a shelter system cannot address.

A relevant paper from the EU Commission:

In February 2008, the Finnish government adopted a programme aimed at halving long-term homelessness by 2011. Referring to the “Housing First” principle, which considers that appropriate permanent accommodation is a prerequisite for solving other social and health problems, the programme seeks to reduce and gradually abandon the use of conventional shelters and change them into supported rented accommodation units.

Outcomes via OECD:

While there is no OECD-wide average against which to compare Finland’s homeless rate of 0.08%, other countries with similarly broad definitions of homelessness provide points of reference, such as neighbouring Sweden (0.33%) or the Netherlands (0.23%). [1]

Finland’s success is not a matter of luck or the outcome of “quick fixes.” Rather, it is the result of a sustained, well-resourced national strategy, driven by a “Housing First” approach, which provides people experiencing homelessness with immediate, independent, permanent housing, rather than temporary accommodation (OECD, 2020).

Getting better outcomes than neighbours is a reliable indicator that a policy does work.

P.S.

Regarding Musk:

"Downregulate Musk" will be my anwer to any mention of this election-buying oligarch, probably for a while. A kneejerking far rightist is no person to call any policies.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 1 week ago

Sounds like the kind of thing a tyrannical government would say.

[–] [email protected] 45 points 1 week ago (5 children)

So... You think people who are homeless are just lying about not having a home?

Can we check this fuckstick for brain worms or just if his brain looks like swiss cheese?

[–] [email protected] 12 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

I think the idea is they are too lazy to work for rent. If they really wanted they would go to work and not be homeless anymore. And if they are not able to find any job, they can always do forced labor in a prison system. That's how it was in the USSR. People in power really like this kind of a system

[–] [email protected] 8 points 1 week ago

He doesn't actually believe anything he espouses. He only says these things to further his goal of self enrichment to our detriment.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 week ago

Would it even matter? We're already gonna have a brainworm running the DHHS....

Maybe all these numbnuts are brainworms driving human meat suits.

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[–] [email protected] 35 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

Kind of like the "self-made billionaire."

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 week ago

Elon Musk does not know the difference between homeless and rough sleeping.

[–] [email protected] 14 points 1 week ago (3 children)

I suggest to remedy what must clearly be a misunderstanding, we give him a deep and personal insight: Cut him off from all of his assets, give him nothing but a set of cheap clothes and kick him to the curb.

Of course, we'd need to make sure his billionaire buddies don't help him, but maybe we can just enroll them in this experiment too.

Actually, they might just promise someone a reward once they get access to their funds again, so we need to make sure that this can't influence the experiment. Maybe we could just seize the assets without giving them back? With their hard work, surely they can get back to where they were, pulling bootstraps and all.

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[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 week ago

We must make him a liar then

[–] [email protected] 5 points 1 week ago

Musk is pushing for drastic federal budget cuts targeting programs for vulnerable populations

Billionaire cuts services for the poor. Bears continue to shit in the woods. What next? The sun rises in the morning?

[–] [email protected] 10 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Every action involves a reaction.

You cut taxes? What will be lost? This is not an exception.

Half million people that have literally nothing to lose (even a prison may be a safer place for them) is quite an army. Desperate people are famous for doing desperate things.

This will not end up well and not only for the homeless

[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 week ago

I'm sure he recognizes this, but also recognizes that he won't be on the first front of that particular fight.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 week ago

in a world where private prisons are a thing, punitive measures mean business. Cut help for vulnerable populations, redirect funds to businesses, it's the same reverse-Robinhood shit; steal from the poor, give to the rich, with the added twist of "convince the poor this is good for them so they will vote you into power (until we figure out how to fix this "voting" nuisance for good)

[–] [email protected] 51 points 1 week ago (1 children)

How far up the ivory tower do you need to be to ignore homelessness by denying its existence?

[–] [email protected] 39 points 1 week ago

It’s an old old myth. Ronald Reagan said that everyone who is homeless in America is by choice since there’s so many shelters and charities already. It’s incredibly out of touch, but today people like Musk brag about their ignorance.

[–] [email protected] 8 points 1 week ago

It’s rather interesting to see trump falling for the same bullshit he feeds his devoted minions.

[–] [email protected] 37 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Homelessness is a lie and propaganda? That's news to all the homeless people I used to regularly interact with when I worked down town.

[–] [email protected] 19 points 1 week ago (1 children)

can you imagine how happy they will be? "How did I fall for this? I was really convinced I was homeless!"

[–] [email protected] 5 points 1 week ago

"Have you tried living in house?"

[–] [email protected] 26 points 1 week ago

Of course it's a lie. With his money, he could end it overnight.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 week ago

Let's just wait until Leon tells Trump the territory Russia occupies in Ukraine is worth more than Greenland in natural ressources. He'll even fight Putin to own this land.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 1 week ago

For someone with the means to reach infinite corners of the globe he’s so out of touch with the world

[–] [email protected] 15 points 1 week ago

Seems like a great place to start after virtually the entire country praised the actions of a man who killed a CEO for exploiting poor people.

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