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This is a genuine question.

I have a hard time with this. My righteous side wants him to face an appropriate sentence, but my pessimistic side thinks this might have set a great example for CEOs to always maintain a level of humanity or face unforseen consequences.

P.S. this topic is highly controversial and I want actual opinions so let's be civil.

And if you're a mod, delete this if the post is inappropriate or if it gets too heated.

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[–] [email protected] 24 points 4 months ago (2 children)

I want to reward him.

I've never subscribed to anyone's patreon ever before but I would sub to his.

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[–] [email protected] 2 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago) (1 children)

Yes but hopefully he will have some traumatic story that just gives him a light sentence.

It’s still wrong, but when you agitate someone, the punishment for them punching you should be less.

[–] [email protected] -2 points 4 months ago (1 children)

Sentancing requires him to be convicted...

If he is convicted, we as society didn't do our part here.

No crime was committed so why would this chad get convicted

[–] [email protected] 2 points 4 months ago

I rather say murder is wrong but give a slap on the wrist for edge cases than to say murder is right in certain edge cases, regardless if it’s morally justified.

[–] [email protected] 19 points 4 months ago
[–] [email protected] 48 points 4 months ago

No. I hope he's never found. I hope it destroys the careers of all the cops and politicians blowing shitloads of resources looking for him while they barely look at crimes against normal people. I hope all these insurance executives wake up in a cold sweat every night worrying that they'll be next. That's what's best for the world.

[–] [email protected] 12 points 4 months ago (2 children)

Yes, of course. Then face a jury. And hopefully go free via jury nullification.

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[–] [email protected] 32 points 4 months ago (1 children)

No. If murdering cops can get away with it, so should someone who killed a guy who has indirectly killed millions through the racket that is health insurance.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 4 months ago

Amazing how when cops kill people or execs kill people these "moral" topics never come up.

They get paid for it and we move on lol

[–] [email protected] 35 points 4 months ago (1 children)

Hear me out before you rage:

In theory? I believe that killings warrant investigation, prosecution and trial, no matter their intention, though the intention should factor into the result of the process. I want him to be prosecuted with the same intensity as any other killing would be, and if found, given a fair trial, convicted for whatever charge applies, as would be proper for a functioning judicial system. But then I'd want to see him pardoned as political expression of his popular support (and the fact that his victim was part of a deeply inhuman complex of exploitation).

In practice? I hope they never find him. Appropriate intensity of investigation? Orderly arrest? Fair treatment as prisoner? Fair trial? Fair charges? Fair conviction? Fat chance. Pardoned? Not even a chance.

I want him to go without punishment more than I want to hope for a fair process, and I couldn't believe in the latter in any case.

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[–] [email protected] 24 points 4 months ago

No, I think he should escape into myth. I hope that he had a planned exit strategy for the end of this, and that he manages to flee the U.S. If he is caught, I believe he will be made an example, a metaphorical head on a pike to scare people off.

[–] [email protected] 8 points 4 months ago

Even if he gets convicted, he'll be a hero in prison. We've had plenty of serial killers with cult followings, and this person is more dangerous to the establishment out in public.

It's very likely that he would get dealt with in a similar way that Epstein was.

[–] [email protected] 10 points 4 months ago

It'll be interesting to see how this plays out and how long it goes on for. I feel like every other shooting, even school shootings these days get the "thoughts and prayers" treatment. Then it's onto the next news at six and who won last night's game.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 4 months ago

or face ~~un~~forseen consequences.

FTFY

[–] [email protected] 10 points 4 months ago

Don't give a shit if he's prosecuted for it, I'd be a bit pissed if a jury convicts him.

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