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'Huge fight': Warring factions inside Trump transition get into 'big blowup' at Mar-a-Lago (www.rawstory.com)

submitted 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) by [email protected] to c/[email protected]

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Summary

Trump’s transition team is reportedly mired in infighting at Mar-a-Lago, with factions clashing over control and strategy for his return to the White House.

The Washington Post detailed heated disputes, including shouting matches, name-calling, and physical altercations.

Three key factions have emerged: one led by Donald Trump Jr. and JD Vance, another by Trump ally Susie Wiles, and a third by Linda McMahon.

High-profile confrontations involve figures like Boris Epshteyn, Elon Musk, and Vance, highlighting tensions over Cabinet picks and leaks, further fracturing the team.

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[–] [email protected] 85 points 1 day ago (1 children)

In other words; a bunch of ultra wealthy nepo-babies with the IQ/EQ comparable to the average 14 year old boy are hanging out at a luxury country club deciding the future of our nation, and despite having collectively been in the game for almost a decade, they still have no idea what they're doing.

We've come full circle, back to the "founding fathers" in terms of letting the wealthy few decide our future, yet our modern cast of wealthy few are wealthy fools who likely wouldn't survive a week without their personal assistants.

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[–] [email protected] 35 points 1 day ago

Hopefully they just tear themselves apart from the inside and everyone just bails and we can have another election with some decent fucking candidates.

[–] [email protected] 22 points 1 day ago (7 children)

Yet another headline you’d never have to worry about seeing under any other normal presidency.

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[–] [email protected] 46 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Trump’s team is slowly discovering why we have government and bureaucracy.

[–] [email protected] 13 points 1 day ago

they must have not got the memo that their infighting is exactly what boss Putin wanted.

[–] [email protected] 78 points 1 day ago (3 children)

It was nice having a break from these news stories for four years with a boring Biden administration.

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[–] [email protected] 18 points 1 day ago (2 children)

I see a bunch of middle school boys

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[–] [email protected] 61 points 1 day ago (2 children)

Media companies have realized what foreign governments have known for years. If you want all the inside knowledge of what goes on in the Trump White House, send a spy to Mar-a-lago. You don't need clandestine agents when Trump and his crew discuss all this stuff openly, and all you have to do is pay to get in.

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[+] [email protected] -17 points 1 day ago (1 children)

[–] [email protected] 46 points 1 day ago (3 children)

couldn't win an election

Yeah that'll happen when your populace is largely morons who vote for someone who proposed tariffs as a way to lower prices. Yep always the evil Democrats causing everyone to be such morons.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 day ago (2 children)

No, you’re wrong to blame the voters.

Dems could have ran a candidate that appealed to voters, but instead opted for the same corporate shills as always. Dems could have campaigned on massively popular populist policies like paid family leave, raising the minimum wage, or Medicare for all - things which would directly improve the material living conditions of the working class. Their donors didn’t allow them to, and their corruption ensured their obedience. Once again, not learning the lesson, and once again, losing in historic fashion.

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[–] [email protected] 23 points 1 day ago

The same people that boycotted a better deal because they weren't able to understand 1/3 > 1/4.

Education important. School good.

[+] [email protected] -20 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (1 children)

Ok, but admittedly, they can't beat a bunch of morons. It's shameful. You should be embarrassed for supporting these impotent hacks.

[–] [email protected] 15 points 1 day ago (1 children)

It would appear that what you advocate for would be even more beneficial to the bunches of morons. What's more embarrassing and impotent than giving up?

[+] [email protected] -15 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (1 children)

Giving up what? The dems were never more poised then they were this election to end trump for good. They failed. There is no comeback. They haven't even done the work to figure out where they went wrong. They are a sunk cost and for you to put your political energy into this party is a complete waste.

Welcome to the decent into authoritarianism. The longer it takes you to snap out of this delusion that the dems are going to save you the sooner we can mount a real counter.

[–] [email protected] 14 points 1 day ago (1 children)

All of these nihilistic takes never quite seem to address the elephant in the room, which is that it's easier to score from 3rd base than 1st. You can whine that our politicians don't place our choice issues as their number one because of money, but ignorance of the party that wants to wind the clock back is looming 100% of the time, so your arguments are moot for people living in reality. Objectively, the best thing you can do for improving the party is to vote in Democratic primaries or run for office. Do you think people like Rashida Talib aren't doing enough either? It's funny you mention delusions, as if everyone here is like, "I voted, so I'm done for 2-4 years" while being active on political news. In other words, if anyone is reading your take, it automatically doesn't apply to them.

There are many lessons to be learned for the Democrats here, I think it's too early to tell if they've learned anything. Yelling at them with constructive advice is still more important than doomering on a forum.

[+] [email protected] -8 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (1 children)

Nihilism, to me, is to put faith in the democrats who will lose thier fucking hat to fascists and never feel a bit of shame. That's nihilism.

I've given them 8 fucking years to get their shit together and what happen. Biden who said he wouldn't run again drug his feet and shoved kamala through. That is not strategy, that's a throw. Your fucking insane looking back at this and not seeing how the democrats took the goodwill of kind hearted people only to roll over and die when it mattered most.

I'm pragmatic, I'll always put my vote where it needs to go. I can not give the DNC any ounce of support and I will not be looking for any wins from them any time soon. The damage is done. What the GOP are reaping cannot be undone in 2 years. 4 years. I'd venture 100. Especially when the democrats come out with a showing like this.

[–] [email protected] 8 points 1 day ago (1 children)

"Faith" is clearly the misunderstanding you have here. You don't choose to drive on the right side of the road because you have Faith you'll get home safe, you do it because if you drive head-on into traffic, you'll die. The "Faith" is that the alternative is worse. Are you arguing that the Republicans aren't worse? Or that everyone reading your post voting for a shitty third party that does virtually no local elections would have led to a better outcome? We have no Faith the Democrats will do good, that's why we need to shout at them and improve the party with, perhaps maybe our own membership. Where is that energy better directed oh wise sage?

[–] [email protected] 31 points 1 day ago

Oh no! I hope they don't kill each other! That would be a tragedy 🙄

[–] [email protected] 15 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Traditionally, disputes like this were resolved by all members of one faction having unfortunate fatal accidents in the same night.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Pistols at dawn!

[–] [email protected] 6 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (2 children)

I was thinking more about long knives.

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[–] [email protected] 110 points 1 day ago* (last edited 8 hours ago) (6 children)

I feel like if we're to get out of this unscathed it'll be because of this kind of infighting. AntiMAGA people in gov't should find as many ways to stir the pot as they can.

EDIT: y'all - definitely agree that we're not getting out of this unscathed, you can quit pointing out my poor choice of words

[–] [email protected] 64 points 1 day ago (1 children)

We're not getting out of this unscathed.

The infighting and arguing is, at best, the grifters trying to secure the best grift for themselves at the expense of everyone else.

[–] [email protected] 20 points 1 day ago

No you're right, even if it's just chaos and infighting for the next four years we're all going to suffer

[–] [email protected] 66 points 1 day ago (1 children)

AntiMAGA people in gov’t should find as many ways to stir the pot as they can.

These people are so mature and well adjusted that this could be accomplished by simply walking up to Trump and saying "did you hear what Vance said about you last night?" and then walking up to Vance and saying "did you hear what Elon said about you?" and then asking Elon "did you hear what Don Jr said about you?" No elaboration, let their "imaginations" run wild.

[–] [email protected] 19 points 1 day ago (1 children)

There is probably at least one troll doing exactly that lol

[–] [email protected] 11 points 1 day ago

Honestly if I had the influence required id worm my way in just to do that. It emphasizes factionalism and forces them at eachothers throats.

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[–] [email protected] 145 points 1 day ago (4 children)

This is why the Media helped Trump win. So they will have endless stories like this.

[–] [email protected] -2 points 1 day ago (2 children)

Late night talk show hosts are salivating at the thought of the next four years.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 day ago (1 children)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yNX5OPkrfZk&t=64s

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 day ago

Haha. An honest liar, that Colbert.

[–] [email protected] 14 points 1 day ago (2 children)

https://youtu.be/LU2atCWyAos?t=27m44s

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Maybe not for him, as he's not a traditional late night host, but for the rest of them, definitely. It's all they talked about for four years.

[–] [email protected] 18 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Because it was all they COULD talk about for 4 years. He monopolized the media landscape, pushing out much better material left and right.

Besides, being funny about something that's already both a joke and a tragedy is NOT anywhere near as easy as you might think.

Especially not when millions of people will send you death threats if you go to far and millions of people will stop watching if you go too easy.

And that's not even mentioning the real possibility that he might make mocking him illegal.

[+] [email protected] -11 points 1 day ago (1 children)

No need to bootlick talk show hosts. There is always plenty going on in the world. They choose to discuss him every night. To say that's all they could talk about is gross hyperbole. They are lazy. The writers are lazy. Trump is some of the lowest hanging fruit in the last 50 years.

[–] [email protected] 9 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (1 children)

No need to bootlick talk show hosts

If that's what you think was going on, I hesitate to read the rest of your comment.. 🤦

There is always plenty going on in the world

Yeah, but talk show hosts have to stay relevant. They have to make jokes about what people are talking about.

What people are talking about is mainly determined about what legacy media covers and what goes viral on social media.

If both are dominated by whatever bullshit the Mango Mussolini is doing, the talk shows gotta talk about what the Mango Mussolini is doing.

To say that's all they could talk about is gross hyperbole

No, it's exaggeration for simplicity to make a point without getting bogged down in irrelevant details

They choose to discuss him every night.

THAT'S hyperbole, though. Hypocrisy too, by the looks of it.

They are lazy. The writers are lazy

More hypocrisy with your lazy and narrow minded jumping to conclusions 🙄

I was right. I shouldn't have read on.

[+] [email protected] -7 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (1 children)

The fact that you're defending late night talk show hosts so hard is odd. Do you work for one of the shows?

No one is putting a gun to their head and forcing them to discus the orange man. It's a choice. This can't be argued.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 day ago (1 children)

I'm not defending anyone, I'm explaining how it works. It's not my fault that you're being an unfortunate combination of dense and inexplicably hostile 🤷

No one is putting a gun to their head and forcing them to discus the orange man. It's a choice.

Their job is literally to make topical jokes and interview people. In order for people to laugh at topical jokes, they need to know about the thing being joked about.

Talk show hosts COULD make their monologues about better topics than Trump, but if Trump is all anyone is talking about, people aren't going to get any of the references and the whole thing will fall flat.

This can't be argued

You're right. It's nonsense. I've explained how it workers and why it works like that now, so if you still cling to your pet hypothesis about all comedy writers being lazy hacks who love writing about Trump, I'm not going to waste any more time and effort. I can explain it for you, but I can't understand it for you.

Have the day you deserve.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 day ago

You and I define hostile very differently. If you can't have a calm conversation with perceiving hostility, I would advise against online conversations. Interpreting tone of text without hearing a literal tone of voice and facial expressions can be difficult for some.

Not everyone is talking about Trump. That's a serious case of TDS. Just because the media, who loves him, for obvious reasons, chooses to discuss him 24/7 doesn't imply the average person is. I can't recall the last time I spoke to someone in person about him. It happens enough online for my taste.

You can word it how you want, but you are defending them; a thing can be two things. I'm sorry if this upsets you.

Have a wonderful weekend. You deserve it.

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[–] [email protected] 47 points 1 day ago

I hated it so much last time. Too stressful. When Biden won in 2020 it felt like a weight was lifted off me.

[–] [email protected] 64 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

I see a lot of takes like "The media learned nothing from 2016/2020."

My enby in Christ, our blessed ever perfect capitalism means they can NEVER 'learn' or even 'care' about what is best for the country. It will only ever be about the click$.

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