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Elon Musk says he's formed the 'America Party.' Trump says he's gone 'off the rails.'
(www.businessinsider.com)
Get them equally strong and face them at each other.
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I really want to know what my parents think about this. Because they fucking LOVE Elon Musk and voted Trump because of him.
Does he call it the "National Super Dope American Party"?
The only explanation for this is that Trump basically milked Musk's popularity with dumb people and kept him around until Musk was no longer useful. Musk on the other hand thought he was going to control Trump to be a shadow president on his crazy drug-induced power trip but got a reality check and now his ego is hurt and is making a fuss. I doubt this will gain any traction, to build a political party is extremely expensive, Reps and Dems have hundreds of rich people behind them for greasing the wheels, plus brand recognizability and organized people and community presence. The most we can tell from this is that billionaires still need a political front to push their agenda and see how many times can Musk fail without losing his fortune.
I really hate the term 'freedom' now. It's thrown around so much and it means basically nothing anymore. "Join this! Now with 20% more freedom!". Freedom to/from what? It's never stated, it's just a vibe.
It's been like that for decades now, going back at least to George W. Bush saying that Al Qaeda "hates us for our freedoms".
Just make some fucking basic ass product, call it freedom or patriot and overcharge for it. Boom profit.
Like this dipshit.
I have entertained the idea that Musk hacked the vote tabulations. If it's true, Trump would lose his mind knowing his one and only richman was hacking for someone else now.
Techno feudal fascism vs Steongman fascism.
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To be honest, they both got off the rails long, long ago.
just die already
None of the Secret Service are true patriots.
Someone's gotta do it eventually. Maybe some radicalized Tesla or SpaceX employee.
All aboard the crazy train, we're going of the rails.
He's not wrong, there are people disillusioned with both parties. But if Elon thinks we're all idiots, and will flock to other nazi party, I've got a bridge to sell him.
Maybe some of the center right, and magas who've been personally wronged by the Trumpsters will swing that way, but he's gonna find the left isn't quite as stupid as he thinks.
Split the vote ding dong, go on, do it. I dare you.
If someone else had started a third party, it might have pulled support from both parties. But, I think there aren't many democrats who will join his party after he did so much to get Trump elected, then worked for his government for a while.
I hope he throws billions at this project, because IMO the only thing it might do is fracture the GOP base.
but he's gonna find the left isn't quite as stupid as he thinks.
I wish I shared your optimism. Nothing in my experience of life tells me that betting on the left, especially their elected representatives, to not do something stupid is a good plan.
By "left" I'm assuming you mean liberals. "The left" doesn't really have elected politicians. Unless you count Mamdani and he's not even fully elected yet.
Liberals are what passes for the left here, yes.
Leftists are socialists, the left is relative. I don't understand why this is so hard for people to get.
The right finally gets a Jill Stein. Good luck with that.
I mean in fairness, they've always had Jill Steins. We can bitch about the spoiler effect and yell at our guys for voting, but election after election when you look at people focusing the blame on the greens when we lose, liberterians and other right wing parties, always have more votes than left wing 3rd parties.
Also sadly it sounds like musk is actually planning to do the strategic right way to do a new party. IE focus on house and senate seats to basically to threaten narrow votes.
In short it sounds more like he's making the republican's "Manchins".
Even senate and house seats are a big step. The best way would be your local state senate, house, and mayoral positions. This is the best way to build a grassroots movement and get more people on your side.
If it de-thrones Trump, it can't be all that bad
Well doesn't sound like it's going presidential, and currently I don't think if trump goes for a 3rd term, it will involve elections.
I mean, we don't have high regard for the guy that killed hitler.
Hitler wasn't completely bad. He did manage to kill Hitler. So..you know... He's got that going for him.
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