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Sorry if this is a dumb question, but does anyone else feel like technology - specifically consumer tech - kinda peaked over a decade ago? I'm 37, and I remember being awed between like 2011 and 2014 with phones, voice assistants, smart home devices, and what websites were capable of. Now it seems like much of this stuff either hasn't improved all that much, or is straight up worse than it used to be. Am I crazy? Have I just been out of the market for this stuff for too long?

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[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 day ago

I sure hope not. Building a new PC this weekend.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 1 day ago

Tech has advanced technically (for lack of a better word) but yeah, it's being used against us more than to our benefit a lot of the time.

[–] [email protected] 12 points 1 day ago

I blame the big tech companies. 10-20 years ago they were not that big so they didn't buy every competition to kill them. Now any time we get a new company or product that could change the world, one of the big 3 (apple, amazon, google) will buy them to keep the tech, code, or people for themselves.

Wanna see what not being bought by big tech is like? Look at what FOSS is doing. Look at Home Assistant, Jellyfin, AOSP is doing, it's making huge leaps without big tech.

[–] [email protected] 9 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (1 children)

Nah, people always think thing "peaked" during their era. Its probably nostalgia. Tech back then is, in my opinion, terrible.

I was born around 2000-2003 (not giving exact year for privacy reasons)

Examples:

When I got my first phone (like around 2015 or so), it was an android phone that didn't have great encryption. You had to manually enable encryption and its not File-Based encryption like in today's android phones, its Full Disk Encryption which mean alarms dont work if you reboot your phone. And it takes like an hour or 2 to first set up the encryption.

Phones have so much vulnerabilities. Stagefright, Blueborne, etc. Luckily, I never got hacked (or at least not that I'm aware of) but it was just unsettling to know your phone is vulnerable, and you're even already on the latest update. Also there was a lot of screenlock bypasses. Updates typically is only 1 year OS update and 2 year security updates, if even that. Updates were also very slow to get rolled out.

Security was so bad, I can root my android phone with a random app I downloaded by searching "Android Root", don't even need to connect to a pc. Like can you imagine a random app being able to just take root privilages on your phone.

Nowadays, phones are much more secure, even the cheapest samsung phone has 4 years of OS updates, 5 years of security updates. With better encryption.

Phone plans were expensive AF, well I was a kid, but the normal plans had those "Unlimited Data" but with a huge asterisk, data slows after like a certain amount like 5 GB or something, I was unlucky, my parents were a bit cheap so the family plan that I was on only had 30MB of 4g internet, then throttled to 128kbps. Unusable unless you are at home and have wifi.

Nowadays, unlimited plans have become the norm, the plan that I was on even got a free upgrade to unlimited high speed data.

Oh and HTTPS wasn't default in most sites, some didn't even have it. And no HSTS as far as I remember.

Back then, there were no such thing as Airtags or Samsung Smarttags that are so cheap and allows tracking misplace items or even your pets. (I mean there are privacy concerns... still, very useful if not misused)

There were no smart watches that can detect a heart attack. (They're not exactly accurate, but still...)

There were no phones that detect a car crash or even use satelites to make a sos call. (I'm talking about the iPhone 14)

I mean yes we have so much enshittification today, but that's not really a tech problem, its a corporate greed problem not doesn't just affect technology.

Technology isn't bad, its just the way we use it.

Like nuclear technology can be use to build bombs to destroy, or used in power plants to create energy.

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[–] [email protected] 6 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

For some, yes. Automotive is one that comes to mind. I miss dumb TVs. I'd say laptop, but then I'm rocking a decade-old Thinkpad, so I might be a bit biased here. I also miss phones that aren't as locked down. I hate what the current streaming service industry have become, and how social media is filled with AI trash.

I'd say that our personal needs for shear computation power have peaked within the last ten years. Yes, people have been saying this since the dawn of personal computers. Yes, servers keep getting more powerful. However, the fact that some schmucks just released a thousand dollar laptop with more or less the same RAM & CPU specs as my decade old Thinkpad kinda proves that.

Other than that, a lot of things are getting better. As an open-source enthusiast, I see things keeps improving, FreeCAD 1.0 just got released, more improvements to Linux kernel, LibreOffice handles MS Office files better, etc. Manufacturing techniques keeps getting more advanced, like 3D printing metal, and for us mortals, faster FDM printing with better plastic material that's more UV resistant. Radio technologies comes to mind; with SDR, one can achieve what people from last decade would need expensive specialized equipments for, yes you can get your hands on these for cheap.

Last but not least, don't forget this very platform where you're reading this very comment ;)

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 day ago (5 children)

No. You mean AI has not at least wowed you?

[–] [email protected] 9 points 1 day ago (2 children)

We had a chatbot based on Markov chains like 20 years ago in a friend’s group chat that ran on a potato, so no. LLMs are mostly the same thing only wasting astronomically larger resources.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 day ago

Markov chains are way worse and nearly always fail to preserve the illusion of reasoning. Markov chains also haven't generated them deepfakes.

[–] [email protected] 8 points 1 day ago

And those principles were formulated at the start of the 20th century and partially in the 19th.

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[–] [email protected] 17 points 1 day ago

Nah new tech is great. Flippers, steam decks, nano drones. Bluetooth was a joke a decade ago. Now we can do devices over wifi! Much of the tech from that era barely worked and was practically DIY levels of reliability. Rose colored glasses etc..

Which isn't to say that somethings haven't gotten outright shitty (M$, apple products, etc..). But widely, things are much much better. I think it depends how "mainstream" you are shopping. But if you were shopping "mainstream" then, it was just as shitty as it is today.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 day ago

I might be simple to please but I think 1080p or 2160p is just peak to me. I find it very difficult to notice differences between 1080p and 2160p but moreso with 2160p and 4K. When Blu-Ray came out, they were of course hamming up Blu-Ray as the shit and DVD was now seen as inferior. I never really cared for what Blu-Ray had to offer at the time of it's debut. Because DVD quality was more than efficient to me, better than VHS which the comparison between VHS and DVD was night and day.

People tend to like tricking others into going into the more premium and expensive options of the latest tech with dishonest comparisons. You see this all the time with graphical comparisons with games and movies. Where they'll deliberately pixelate what they see as an inferior visual and sharpen the later options. It's just dishonest and operates on an extreme bias.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 day ago

Does anybody else

Yes, pretty much always.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 day ago

yep, and then tech companies began the big cull, taking all the free services and beginning to squeeze, at every level, all the time

[–] [email protected] 51 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (5 children)

It all went downhill when the expectation of an always-on internet connection became the norm. That gave us:

  • "Smart" appliances that have no business being connected to the internet
  • "Smart" TVs that turned into billboards we pay to have in our homes
  • Subscription everything as a service
  • Massive zero-day patches for all manner of software / video games (remember when software companies had to actually release finished/working software? Pepperidge Farm remembers)
  • Planned obsolescence and e-waste on steroids where devices only work with a cloud connection to the manufacturer's servers or as long as the manufacturer is in business to keep a required app up to date
  • Every piece of software seemingly sucking up all the data it can about you and feeding it back to the mothership so you can be profiled and sold to advertisers
  • Pretty much everything Apple does is designed to further lock you into their ecosystem and/or remove a port that's standard in order to pocket the savings and sell you a dongle for $29.99
  • Dwindling / disappearing availability of physical media you effectively own forever in favor of digital libraries that you only have a flimsy license to access at the company's whim (even though you "bought" the title for the same price it would have cost on physical media). Those have been ruled non-transferable (e.g. if you want to leave them to someone in your will) and the company going under leaves you with no rights or ability to get a refund or physical copy of things you supposedly bought but can no longer access.

Other than hardware getting more powerful and sometimes less expensive, every recent innovation has been used against us to take away the right to own, repair, and have any control over the tech we supposedly own.

Edits: I keep thinking of more things that annoy me lol.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 1 day ago (2 children)

Not discounting anything you listed, but I overcome lots of this by being patient. I find it best to let the dust settle on everything now. I don't even see new movies till like, the next year. Why be a beta tester for enshittification

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

One of the good things about the internet is you can watch videos about whatever the thing that you're interested in is. Get your "fix", and then patient-gamer it.

Before the net you had to actually buy the thing.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

Same. Most of my media collection (TV series, movies, console video games) came from yard sales where I'd find the DVD/Blu-ray box sets for $10 or less. I'm just salty that streaming / digital distribution is chipping away at my frugal media habits lol.

[–] [email protected] 12 points 1 day ago

And to force subscriptions, ads and tracking, the tech is getting more and more locked down.
Not just flashing phones and wifi routers, but you may not even watch high quality video, even though you're paying a subscription if your device's HW and SW don't conform.

If something gets discontinued, it's not just that it may be unsafe to use or be too slow for modern use, no, look at cloud-managed network gear. The company decides it's a paperweight, and it is. And this is going to just extend further.

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[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 day ago

You grew up in a time of huge technological innovation, so you see anything else as unusual

Boomers grew up in stagnation, and expect tech to keep progressing at the same rate.

Both are 100% normal ways for our brains to expect shit to go, but neither fit modern society.

[–] [email protected] 25 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Its called enshitification. Its a process that's been happening in all areas of tech for a while now.

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[–] [email protected] 23 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Your BS radar has simply improved I'm guessing. Go through a few hype cycles, and you learn the pattern.

Hardware is better than ever. The default path in software is spammier and more extortionist than ever.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 1 day ago (1 children)

The technology has not peaked, the user experience has peaked

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 day ago

The default user experience maybe. Get better software, enjoy the better hardware.

[–] [email protected] 215 points 1 day ago (5 children)

To quote one of my favorite authors:


“I've come up with a set of rules that describe our reactions to technologies:
1. Anything that is in the world when you’re born is normal and ordinary and is just a natural part of the way the world works.
2. Anything that's invented between when you’re fifteen and thirty-five is new and exciting and revolutionary and you can probably get a career in it.
3. Anything invented after you're thirty-five is against the natural order of things.”


― Douglas Adams, The Salmon of Doubt: Hitchhiking the Galaxy One Last Time

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 day ago (2 children)

What about things that are invented when I'm younger than 15?

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 day ago

Man, the toys invented around that time are the best.... But that's probably all you're really paying attention to at that point.

And for kids now? Well they have things like Skibidi Toilet to keep them occupied.

But for a more serious answer I think that's when they're in their most creative mindset and everything is new to them and they're learning how things work.

Obviously the exact age at which someone starts to take an interest in tech is going to be different from person to person. For me, I was a fan of reading popular science magazines at a younger age as well as manuals on all of the different setting/functions/features of operating systems...

[–] [email protected] 7 points 1 day ago

That's number 1.

[–] [email protected] 14 points 1 day ago (1 children)
[–] [email protected] 34 points 1 day ago (1 children)

This is the answer.

I beg to disagree. The answer is 42. The real issue being: to what question? :p

[–] [email protected] 38 points 1 day ago (3 children)
[–] [email protected] 6 points 1 day ago

That's very cool

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[–] [email protected] 115 points 1 day ago (6 children)

I think new tech is still great, I think the issue is the business around that tech has gotten worse in the past decade

[–] [email protected] 59 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (6 children)

Agree. 15+ years ago tech was developed for the tech itself, and it was simply ran as a service, usually for profit.

Now there's too much corporate pressure on monetizing every single aspect, so the tech ends up being bogged down with privacy violations, cookie banners, AI training, and pretty much anything else that gives the owner one extra anual cent per user.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 1 day ago

You know this happened with cars also, until there is a new disruption by a new player or technology - companies are just coasting on their cash cows. Part of the market cycle I guess.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 1 day ago

Lots of the privacy violations already existed, but then the EU legislated first that they had to have a banner vaguely alluding to the fact that they were doing that kind of thing, and later, with GDPR, that they had to give you the option to easily opt-out.

[–] [email protected] 44 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Aka “enshittification”

[–] [email protected] 27 points 1 day ago

Enshittification was always a thing but it has gotten exponentially worse over yhe past decade. Tech used to be run by tech enthusiasts, but now venture capital calls the shot a lot more than they used to.

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