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Summary

Arab Americans who supported Trump in battleground states like Michigan express concerns over his key appointments, particularly pro-Israel figures like Mike Huckabee, Marco Rubio, and Elise Stefanik, who oppose a two-state solution and back Israel’s actions in Gaza.

While some voters hoped Trump would prioritize peace in the Middle East, his picks have fueled unease about his administration’s direction.

Outreach leaders like Massad Boulos, who engaged Arab American communities during Trump’s campaign, have yet to secure roles, leaving some supporters questioning their expectations of Trump’s policies.

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[–] [email protected] 55 points 13 hours ago

Leopards got your face eh

[–] [email protected] 6 points 13 hours ago

Lol and? Eat the shit pie you voted for.

[–] [email protected] 31 points 13 hours ago

It's fascinating how he didn't permanently lose the vote of the entire US Muslim community when he, you know, tried to institute a Muslim ban.

(I'm aware that "Arab Americans" doesn't equal "Muslim Americans" but there's a lot of overlap.)

[–] [email protected] 2 points 13 hours ago
[–] [email protected] 17 points 14 hours ago

Yeah?

Trump is not concerned with your opinion.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 15 hours ago (1 children)

Trump is incredibly pro Israel.

[–] [email protected] 12 points 13 hours ago* (last edited 13 hours ago)

Trump's plan for Ukraine is to give Putin everything he wants, and for Gaza and the West Bank it's to give Netanyahu everything he wants. That's what Trump has always meant when he says he can bring peace.

[–] [email protected] 21 points 15 hours ago

“I never thought the Leopards would eat MY face! Even though they specifically said they would and campaigned on eating all faces, I didn’t really think that they would be so focused on eating faces, especially not mine!”

[–] [email protected] 12 points 15 hours ago

You get what you fucking pay for.

[–] [email protected] 73 points 15 hours ago

As an Arab-American myself, I say fuck them. They deserve all the shit that's to come their way. The dude said it loud and clear "let Bibi finish the job". I know the Democrats didn't do shit either, but at least they never said they wanted to deport everyone, which means you'll still have a fucking voice. You can protest them when they're in office. He was very clear with his stance on minorities. Some of them argued with me about "nuclear family and religion" and fucking bullshit. Dumbasses, you don't need Trump to have a nuclear family and have your religion. It just never makes sense to me.

[–] [email protected] 11 points 16 hours ago (1 children)
[–] [email protected] 5 points 13 hours ago (1 children)

That's what I said and got banned. Poor bastards can't accept their stupidity. This is from the Palestine forum since they were complaining about Trump's new pick. Lol.

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[–] [email protected] 6 points 16 hours ago (1 children)

I hope this topic for which numerous articles have been written won't have the knock on effect of a whole population of people being dragged and demonized in public. Certainly has that vibe to me.

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[–] [email protected] 126 points 16 hours ago (1 children)

maaan… how the fuck are people this uninformed about who donald trump is and what he's about? did all these people think supporting him would curry them favor, and make their people safer than if a less insane candidate took office? like, i geuinely don't understand how you hear what this motherfucker says and not realize his whole entire deal i hating people who aren't cishet white men. like i can get my friend who the first ever election she voted in in our country was 2016 when she grew up with different formats of propaganda, but he was president for four years, and this go around he's been more mask off, and the people saying he's dangerous have been more direct in their messaging.

like… how are people this illiterate beyond just reading comprehension? like, why don't you got anything comprehension, what is this?

[–] [email protected] 93 points 16 hours ago* (last edited 16 hours ago) (4 children)

54% of American adults have the reading comprehnsion skills of a 5th grader, or worse.

How?

Republicans have spent many decades defunding public education, with no effective pushback.

[–] [email protected] 25 points 13 hours ago (1 children)

Republicans have spent many decades defunding public education

Republicans have also spent many decades developing psychological operations aimed at controlling the news and churches.

[–] [email protected] 8 points 13 hours ago (7 children)

Yes, this as well.

All while the Democrat strategy was to... not do any effective counter propoganda at the same scale or in the same manner whatsoever, keep relying on the traditional media outlets that they also simultaneously know are dying and becoming more biased against them.

But then they also do a surprise pikachu face when the mediums they know are dying and irrelevant... don't reach people.

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[–] [email protected] 20 points 16 hours ago (3 children)

we're going to fix this. i don't know how yet. and it won't be easy. and it won't be short term. but we're going to fix this, so read to a kid. make them remember reading time as the best part of their day. make them love the things AI can't twist: physical artifacts

[–] [email protected] 13 points 14 hours ago* (last edited 13 hours ago) (1 children)

I appreciate your optimism, but my realism says no, no we probably won't.

We've got a maximum of 20 years, probably closer to 10, before millions, and then tens and then hundreds of millions of people around the world will be starving to death and attempting to mass migrate due to climate change, which we will not stop or mitigate.

Governments around the world will continue becoming more authoritarian.

Maybe we can make small, individual differences in our personal lives, but no, barring a worldwide overthrow of capitalism in some way that also does not result in a collapse of mass agriculture...

No, we are looking at famine, destruction and chaos, and decent, critical thought oriented education will be an even more minor funding priority for all but the ruling class and their neo-nobility children.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 13 hours ago (2 children)

we have two options to follow. we can do everything we can to make things better, or we can do nothing and everyone dies. personally i do not consider the latter viable. the former requires instilling hope that better things are possible. and here's the thing: if we all band together against authoritarianism we will reach some people who are currently not awake to the possibilities. to reiterate, it will not be easy and it will not be short term, but if you ask me of the two possible outcomes, the one where everyone dies or the one where everyone gets to be free, i prefer the one where everyone gets to be free. so i'm gonna do everything in my power to bring that one to pass, even if it's hard, unpleasant, or at times like right now seemingly impossible, but keep in mind every group faced with destruction passed down the messages they felt were most important, and always the message of the value of hope makes it through. hope is ultimately a weapon of resistance, one i refuse to give up

[–] [email protected] 3 points 13 hours ago* (last edited 13 hours ago) (3 children)

Oh I didn't say we should do nothing.

What I am saying is, is that we are past the threshold of a good future, for all but the hyper wealthy.

Yes, we can do things to make it a less bad future for the masses, but there is no realistic plan where everyone, all 340ish million Americans, all 8 billionish humans, get to be free.

Telling everyone authoritarianism is bad is not an effective strategy.

Evidence: It's what leftists and liberals have been doing for 8 years and it resulted in the greatest Republican sweep since Reagan.

You have to actually do things, things which have a realistic chance of working.

If your plan is to hope really hard, the lesson our hypothetical ancestors will learn is: Hopium cheerleading is an exhausting, virtue signalling waste of time that accomplishes nothing when it is not paired with actual, actionable plans.

Have you got any of those?

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[–] [email protected] -2 points 15 hours ago (1 children)

Bold words from a country built on the failure of other empires.

[–] [email protected] 9 points 15 hours ago (1 children)

when i say "we" i don't mean america. i mean the poor, the lower classes, i mean people who know the truth. people who understand hierarchies aren't necessary to society, that poverty is enforced, and that all people can be, and deserve to be free. sorry for any disclarity. this is not just about the united states. this is about a global system of terror that's about to get a lot scarier after a summer of intensifying authoritarianism

[–] [email protected] 7 points 15 hours ago (1 children)

Also, vote for levies to fund local schools.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 15 hours ago

and also libraries and book mobiles. and help fund reading therapists however you can. give the children the things that helped you come up. that's all society has ever been. a 10k year long effort to give the kids a better future than the one we were given. it's just every 80 years we fuck it all up and give them a worse future. but if our ancestors voices can reach us, our voices can still be around as long as the truth needs to be told

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[–] [email protected] 25 points 16 hours ago (1 children)

GOOD. fuck everyone who voted for fascism. i look forward to reading about their dismay at the realization of just how fucked we all are

[–] [email protected] 7 points 13 hours ago

If the left can organize to transform this disappointment into actual resistance, that will be worth something. Right now I think mass civil disobedience is the only thing that can really slow down the implementation of fascism, but it needs to be organized and we don't yet see anyone stepping up to organize real resistance.

[–] [email protected] 70 points 16 hours ago (3 children)

I don't understand how any Arab American could think Trump would advocate for peace in the middle east.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 15 hours ago

Like, by nuking the whole place until the shooting stops?

[–] [email protected] 16 points 15 hours ago

This is not unique to Arab Americans.

There is a decent amount of Ukrainian Americans who support independent Ukraine, but also think Trump would stop the war and be a better choice for Ukraine. Although it seems that this is somewhat less common than in the Arab American community (I could be wrong).

This is of course complete bullshit. Trump is a corrupt American oligarch with degenerate tendencies. Oligarchs protect their gangs, expand their territory and give kickbacks to partner gangs (e.g. allowing unsafe "full self driving" rules for Elmo's organization). This is not even a Trump or American thing, this is universal.

With respect to Gaza, the Israeli oligarch gangs have far more money and influence on Trump's crew. Then there is also kinship ties.

But this was a shrewd move by Trump's crew. I think some proportion of the Arab American community will become life-long supporters irrespective of what happens in Gaza (I think their concern for Gaza is a bit more nuanced than what one may think at first glance).

[–] [email protected] 49 points 16 hours ago (1 children)

he talks about peace, but it's obvious from the context he means the kind of peace hitler meant: the kind where everyone is dead at the end of the grand all consuming war

[–] [email protected] 40 points 16 hours ago (2 children)

I can’t believe those people took Trump seriously. The same guy who literally instated a muslim ban and uses the words arab/muslim/terrorist interchangeably.

[–] [email protected] 17 points 16 hours ago

the lesson here is "gotdamn is propaganda effective, even to get people to do the absolute dumbest shit"

so start putting out messaging about how… not to be a shitty person where people who aren't guaranteed to agree with you will see and hear it

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