At what age have you become sexually active?
this post was submitted on 15 Nov 2024
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Whenever your parents make you, apparently
Totally not right!
They follow muhammad right to the letter don't they?
At least they're consistent 🤮
As if women in these countries have the right to consent or not in the first place
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Read the headline, immediately checked if this was some the onion type of magazine
Well, it has been that kind of day
They probably got Trump's blessing on this one
I quickly googled this and mostly found sources like Fox News or Times of India that follow some agenda.
So here’s a Guardian article on the topic in case anyone was wondering about a commonly known source: https://www.theguardian.com/global-development/article/2024/aug/09/proposed-iraqi-law-change-would-legalise-child-say-activists
Basically there are some religious hardliners that are in the pocket of Iran that want to reduce the marriage age to 9 which would effectively end up in legalizing child rape. Opponents of this are being accused of „western decadence“. So basically after the ~~destabilization~~ liberation of Iraq politics are dominated by the same people that run Iran.
The people ~~suffering~~ enjoying their liberation are the normal people as usual.
In the meantime, in Iran, age of consent is ~~15~~ 13 (Src https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Age_of_consent_in_Asia). Too low as well, but not 9 FFS.
Opponents of this are being accused of „western decadence“
Those damned hedonists indulging in the luxury of... checks notes... keeping their dicks out of kids.
So basically after the ~~destabilization~~ liberation of Iraq politics are dominated by the same people that run Iran.
I mean, they were ~~destabilized~~ liberated by the same people...
So does that align with Mohammad 's second wife?
All religion is just a framework to be shitty.
I dont know why you'd be downvoted, people should be reminded of this often.
The prophet Muhammad married his wife Aisha when she was 6 years old. According to the history he waited until she was 9 to start raping her.
Edit: he was 53 when he started raping his 9 year old wife. Fucking gross.
I would assume the downvotes are more for the “religion is a framework to be shitty” part. I’m also going to get downvoted for a similar reason.
Religion is justification for one’s moral compass / desires.
You see people who think it’s morally okay to rape kids or take away women’s rights or the rights of trans people or the rights of gay people etc. These people can’t justify morals (or lack thereof) logically so they use religion to give them a false sense of rationality. Hence you think religion is a framework for being shitty.
However, there are other people who use religion to justify “good” behavior like compassion and acceptance. These people are still reliant on fallacious beliefs, but their actions are not “shitty” so they get offended. Furthermore, others—who know people in this second category—may also think the remark about religion being shitty is not correct and is rude. That’s why it’s getting downvoted.
Fun sidenote, we can actually formally prove that religion or at least absolute morality doesn’t matter, and that people will just do what they want no matter what:
Proof. We seek to prove that people do whatever they want regardless of the existence of a god or absolute morality. We have three natural cases:
Case 1: Assume neither god nor an absolute purpose/morality exists. Then a person will default to their own morals. Hence, if neither exists, people will do whatever they want.
Case 2: Assume a god or purpose/morality exists that does not align with a person’s current morals. (For example a god that required you to strangle six puppies every year or required human sacrifice, or raping kids, or blowing up hospitals, or working in finance, etc.). Then this person will not follow that god/purpose because they are a bad god/purpose. Hence, a person will do whatever they feel is right regardless even with the existence of a true deity/purpose when that god/purpose does not share their morals.
Case 3: Assume a true god or purpose does exist and that it aligns with the morality of a person. Then that person will be living that way anyway, so the existence of the god or purpose has no effect on them doing whatever they want.
In each case a person will do whatever they want regardless of the existence or non existence of a god or a true purpose/morality. Q.E.D.
I should note that while I did come up with this proof myself several years ago, I learned later that Marcus Aurelius and other philosophers beat me to the punch by several centuries. But hey philosophy is the study of understanding existence, if we both exist in the same existence we can and should be able to discover the same facts about reality.
Edit, phrasing.
I hate Abrahamic origin religious systems en masse, especially when states use them to justify bullshit. Goes for western countries too.
Some folks probably think I'm targeting
I hate Abrahamic origin religious systems en masse
Right there with you in agreement 100%. This iron age mythology superstitious nonsense needs to be eradicated completely, and only studied academically from a sociological perspective for what it really is, myth, as well as all the pain, suffering, death and horror it has caused human beings, and still is causing. Fuck religion.
Bronze Age 😋 #Ackchyually. Root narratives of Judaism and so the Abrahamic tradition from roughly 2000-1200 BCE
Ignore me.
Nothing to see here guys. All cultures are equal and thinking the West has a better way is colonialism
/s
Sure the west and their settler colonialism massive resource extraction and so on is great. And its not like the many religious problems against say homosexuality in christian Africa can't be directly be blamed on christian missionaries. And its also not like poverty and brutal attacks on secular nationalists in the middle east in the name of fighting communism has anything to do with modern political Islam. No sir.
That's quite some whataboutism. I'm clearly talking about the insanity of 9 year old girls being forced to wed..
You could have left colonialism out of it. You brought the western shit into the discussion. If you just said the west has better age of consent, everyone would agree.
No, I was making the point that it's currently popular to shit on the West exporting its ideals, but when it's something as blindingly obvious as "maybe 9 year old girls shouldn't be forced into marriage" then maybe on this one occasion that sense of superiority is well placed and necessary
That is clearly a reach given the statement "thinking the west has a better way is colonialism" is a massively ahistorical racist take.
You don't think the West has a better approach on whether or not 9 year old girls are forced to wed?
You're acting like plenty of politicians in the West wouldn't do this if they could.
[citation needed]
State a single mainstream western political movement in which marriage at 9 is not complete insanity
Age of consent to sex, not marriage.
https://www.ageofconsent.net/world
According to this, it looks like the closest country to this age of consent is Nigeria, at 11.
If you want age of marriage, in the US, looks like four states will let you marry at any age, but require special conditions like parental approval or court approval:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Marriage_age_in_the_United_States
California, Utah, Oklahoma, and Mississippi.
Nigeria is not "the West"
Child marriage in the US is rare, in sharp decline and is heavily skewed towards poverty and Native Americans. Numerous political movements exist to raise minimum marriage age to 16-18.
So again, name a mainstream Western political movement where marriage at 9 is not insanity
Nigeria is not "the West"
I didn't say it was. I'm just indicating wherevthe floor is.
It's The Religion of Peace, you see, which in looking the other way, in no way infantilizes the entire culture, which is good, because they're marrying the girl infants away
from 15, apparently
I mean, some US states have lower... We need to work on it.
The youngest age of consent in the US is currently 16, unrestricted, but 14 if you're within a few years of the 14-year-old.
I didn't know the majority of the US age of consent was 16, I thought that was a European thing.
but only 12 states have the age of consent at 18.
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Age_of_consent_in_the_United_States
Somebody tell Gaetz. That might be one way we get rid of him.
Don't give him ideas...
"Consent"
Like consent even comes into it
If they can consent to extra sprinkles on their ice cream, they can be child sex slaves.
(Edit: I just wanna say I'm so glad I didn't need the /s for people to... Wait, I hope people aren't actually agreeing with this)
That's grim
I'm so glad we brought freedom to that country 👏👏👏
Mission Accomplished
Fucking disgusting
YIIIIIIKES