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[–] [email protected] 34 points 2 weeks ago (4 children)

Pretty much all Linkin Park songs.

Listened to it since elementary.

Around high school, I figured the lyrics were kinda dark.

Then the vocalist hung himself.

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[–] [email protected] 30 points 2 weeks ago (11 children)

Richmen North of Richmond.

I love the sound, and at first it sounds like a pro worker union song (and it kinda is).

But there's way too much dog whistle.... An old soul in a new world.... Dude the south lost and slavery is bad. I'm sorry

And then he slips in some super disappointing language about fat people on welfare.

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[–] [email protected] 2 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago) (1 children)

Running to the Sea - Royksopp. Now that I know it's about some sort of terrorist attack, I just feel weird listening to it now

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[–] [email protected] 27 points 2 weeks ago (2 children)

Hey there Delilah

The dude who wrote it is a creep

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[–] [email protected] 13 points 2 weeks ago

I'm learning so much from these comments...

[–] [email protected] 44 points 2 weeks ago (3 children)

Mr Brightside by the Killers. The tune was good and felt energetic when it came about, but it's about a guy being cheated on. Having had someone cheat on me around the time it came out it hit really close to home and I just don't enjoy listening to the song.

The problem with being in the UK is that it's so overplayed and I just have to tune it out.

[–] [email protected] 17 points 2 weeks ago

No, it's a song about a nice guy not getting his crush.

[–] [email protected] 51 points 2 weeks ago (2 children)

It's not. It's about a guy who can't beat jealousy and believes he's being cheated on "except it's all in [his] head"

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[–] [email protected] 5 points 2 weeks ago (2 children)

I don't know what the vast majority of songs I listen to are about. I have some genetic defect that makes it near impossible to hear lyrics. It all sounds like melody to me.

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[–] [email protected] 9 points 2 weeks ago (3 children)

I think it's really interesting how people interpret music completely different than other forms of art. People sometimes assume the worst instead of realizing that the singer is speaking from another perspective. So for example if a writer has a first person perspective of a killer/rapist you wouldn't make an association that the author is anything of the sort. But if they wrote a song and sang it then people would question if they really felt that way. Polly is a great example. By many accounts (Kathleen Hanna , Kim Gordon) Cobain championed feminism and woman's rights but the lyrics of Polly are brutal and from the perpetrator view. Randy Newman's - Rednecks is a tough one to listen to. You can understand how it is trying to point out ignorance and racism like Blazing Saddles but it's sung in first person and should never be played in a public setting. Oingo Bongo's - Little Girs was always a bit creepy now seems to age poorly the more time has gone on. Minor Threat - Guilty of being white is a tough listen because you know racist people think this is a rallying cry instead of the emotionly reaction from a a teenage kid who was bullied in highschool for being white.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

So for example if a writer has a first person perspective of a killer/rapist you wouldn’t make an association that the author is anything of the sort.

That does happen all the time in movies, shows, books, and other forms of art. "What kind of a person would come up with that" isn't an uncommon accusation.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

Sure but I think it is less immediate. In music we have to make a decision if they are speaking about themselves nonfiction or fiction and in a book or movie we assume they are creating fictional character.

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[–] [email protected] 6 points 2 weeks ago (4 children)

In my late teens one of my friend gave me thumb stick with some poorly tagged mp3 mess. It was mostly black metal which I kind of liked (still do, some of it, sometimes when the mood is right). Years later I found out it was compilation of some NSBM bullshit. Not that it mattered in lyrics, as it was allindistinguishable, impossible to hear in true black metal "recorded band jam on a tape in one go from room next door" style, but still... People producing that pretty good music were probably the most degenerate retards in their countries (from USA, through France to Russia).

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[–] [email protected] 8 points 2 weeks ago (3 children)

Baby, It's Cold Outside. It's such a fun song as the guy and girl go back and forth. Until you realize that he's guilting her into sleeping with him. Eww!

[–] [email protected] 17 points 2 weeks ago (4 children)

Ughhh, no no no no no. It's them debating on what excuse she will use so the community doesn't slut shame her!

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[–] [email protected] -5 points 2 weeks ago (16 children)

There is a version out there where they try to tone down the rapey elements. Sadly, it's pretty clunky how they do it.

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[–] [email protected] 66 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

No, it is about both people coming up with excuses for her to stay when social expectations mean staying scandalous and everyone else would gossip.

[–] [email protected] 13 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago) (3 children)

The original film the song appears (Neptune's Daughter) in actually sings the song twice. The first one is very clearly "I want to leave" vs "but you can't." He literally takes the hat off of her head, and she seems very irritated throughout.

The second is a woman trying to stop a man from leaving, to the degree that he ends up putting her clothes on by mistake in an attempt to leave faster. And, as assault of men often is, it's portrayed for laughs.

The entire song is someone refusing to take "no" for an answer. At no point does the typically female role ever make an excuse to STAY, only to LEAVE.

Edit: No idea why "the song where a man stops a woman from leaving is a bit rapey" is a controversial opinion.

[–] [email protected] 18 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago) (2 children)

I think you are mistaking the desire to leave as a personal desire and not an obligation due to social pressure.

The socond set of back and forth is all about other people's expectations and then hesitsting.

My mother will start to worry (beautiful, what's your hurry?)

And father will be pacing the floor (listen to the fireplace roar)

So really I'd better scurry (beautiful, please don't hurry)

Well maybe just a half a drink more (put some records on while I pour)

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[–] [email protected] 4 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

"Freshmen" by the Verve Pipe

[–] [email protected] 7 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

When I loved this song as a teenager I did understand that it was about the girlfriend’s suicide, but I missed the abortion piece. I assumed the “baby’s breath” referenced wedding flowers and “shoe full of rice” was like the rice you throw on newlyweds.

Turns out the only true part of the story is the abortion, which is a rough topic but not inherently tragic. TBH these days a song about abortion could be considered wishful thinking. (Or even celebratory? Cue the Sextina Aquafina abortion song from Bojack.) The suicide is poetic license, but does make for a beautiful narrative of guilt and naïveté.

[–] [email protected] 10 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

Contemporary to that one is "Brick" by Ben Folds Five...

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[–] [email protected] 22 points 2 weeks ago (3 children)

Jump by Van Halen when found out that it's about hanging yourself.

Well, I still like it but it's with a double feeling.

[–] [email protected] 24 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

From genius.com : "The original inspiration for the lyrics came from David Lee Roth watching a person on TV who was threatening to commit suicide by jumping off of a building and Roth figured someone in the crowd must be thinking, “Go ahead and jump”. It was, however, not written about suicide – the song is about ‘jumping’ on the opportunity to hook up with someone."

Though I can see where you got that.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

The lyric "I jump up and nothing gets me down" jumping off a stool/chair but because of the noose he doesn't get down.

But I can see your point.

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[–] [email protected] 3 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago)

I thought it was about starting a fight, like jumping someone.

TIL

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[–] [email protected] 17 points 2 weeks ago (3 children)

The period between hearing and knowing what the song was about was nearly instantaneous but "Smack my bitch up" has an incredibly catchy tune.

It'd be really nice if they released an instrumental version one day.

[–] [email protected] 15 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

For what it's worth, that line is a sample from an Ultramagnetic MCs song.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 2 weeks ago (2 children)

Honestly, that's worth a fair bit to me.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 2 weeks ago

Yeah, I feel like what that insight "means" is in the eye of the beholder. It's definitely not great in the context of the original song either, but it's a bit less in-your-face.

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[–] [email protected] 50 points 2 weeks ago (12 children)

Semi-Charmed Life, by Third Eye Blind. Basically, it's a song about doing meth... Spent almost twenty years just singing the chorus with absolutely no idea what the rest of the lyrics were. Now, it kinda feels weird, ngl.

[–] [email protected] 14 points 2 weeks ago

Not so much a song about doing meth as it's a song about the ramifications of doing meth. "Doing crystal meth will lift you up until you break" it mentions lockjaw at the end and even talks about watching the love of his life die to an od.

[–] [email protected] 16 points 2 weeks ago (2 children)

But it's about how the excitement of meth, like that of a new relationship, fades and leaves the speaker wanting something more substantial while still fondly reminiscing about the good times.

The speaker thinks of the girl as a "sunburn" he "would like to save." He describes meth as something that "will lift you up until you break." I think these characterizations point very strongly toward nostalgic longing and away from the glorification of addiction or even that of drug use. So no reason to feel weird I think.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 2 weeks ago

I guess you're right, I just never gave the song much thought. It's just that it kinda felt like some happy song and I never paid attention to what it was saying, then I looked them up one day, out of curiosity, and I guess it juat felt unexpected to me, and that's why it felt weird. Thinking about what you said makes me want to give the song another listen with an open mind, I guess.

[–] [email protected] 8 points 2 weeks ago

I think these characterizations point very strongly toward nostalgic longing and away from the glorification of addiction or even that of drug use.

There's also an extra verse, which wasn't in the radio edit, that I think further supports what you're saying.

[–] [email protected] 24 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago) (5 children)

I, as a child, did a music class presentation on "my favourite song of the year" on this little ditty.

Whoops!

Edit: To clarify, then, much like now, I listened to the music and not the lyrics. I don't know if that's common at all, but the singing is basically another instrument to me, and I hardly ever pay attention to the actual words.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

I'm the same way, actually.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 2 weeks ago (3 children)

ITT: People on the spectrum

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[–] [email protected] 7 points 2 weeks ago

I think it's fairly common to not always pay close attention to the lyrics. Most of the time, you hear a song on the radio, and you can't always make out what it's saying, but you're still able to enjoy the music and the singing melody. Until you pay more attention or you seek out the lyrics, then you're often surprised about what it's saying, cause the lyrics weren't the point when you used to listen to the song. It doesn't mean that it's world-changing or anything, but it just takes you by surprise.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 2 weeks ago

I listen to music the exact same way. I will maybe pay attention to the chorus or catchy line, but a lot of lyrics are lost on me.

[–] [email protected] 14 points 2 weeks ago

Much of the time I can't even make out the lyrics, so I listen to music the same way

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[–] [email protected] 44 points 2 weeks ago (4 children)

“All that she wants” by Ace of Base. I read a deep dive into the band and it seems like they may have been formed after a neo-nazi group and that song might be about Jews trying to dilute the bloodline… so yeah kinda weird now.

[–] [email protected] 20 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago) (2 children)

Oh fuck, no way.

Ok, I read thenlink and the bassist was an opely total piece of shit before joining the band but I didn't see anyhing about the AoB songs being hidden propaganda or the rest of the band's history. Where does the speculation come from?

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[–] [email protected] 11 points 2 weeks ago

Ooof, TIL..

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[–] [email protected] 30 points 2 weeks ago (2 children)

Well, one that maybe went full circle for me is "bring the pain" by mindless self indulgence. At first, it just seemed like a really fun song that I loved. Then one day, a black dude was in my car listening with me, and he was like "wtf is this song about?". That's when it hit me that the song actually sounds REALLY racist. I looked up the lyrics and that just confirmed it for me. And then years later, I found out it was actually a cover of a method man song, and not really racist at all, I guess. But thats a weird one, maybe best not for white guys to be singing it...

[–] [email protected] 6 points 2 weeks ago (5 children)

The cover definitely goes hard though. I’m legitimately stunned to see MSI mentioned at all, especially at the top of a thread. I’ve been a huge fan of theirs for decades, and rarely if ever see anyone mention them.

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[–] [email protected] 19 points 2 weeks ago (3 children)

Yeah I used to love MSI and never really listened to the lyrics closely. Dude covers songs by black artists and straight up sings the N word.

See also his cover of "Big Poppa"

The more I looked into Jimmy Urine, the more problematic it got, like grooming a teenage girl.

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