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God damn this thread is depressing. We need a carbon tax yesterday.

Not yet, but are there any electric cars that aren't spyware with touchscreens on wheels?

I have Kia Niro, the range isnt as advertised and the gauge is not accurate. I barely made it hom when I should havenhad 40-50 km left in the charge.

I occasionally drive three hours to the office and same back necessitating two stops to charge.

The 200v chargers are more expensice than regular fuel. I have paid 100 euro for that return journey above.

The big question is if you can charge at home. Depending on the car, it's feasible to do so on a normal outlet if you drive ~30 miles or less per day. A 240 volt outlet can be a game changer on top of that though. My setup charges my car 0-100 in about 6 hours (you know, overnight, when I'm not doing anything and electricity is cheapest). But if I were in an apartment and had no access to overnight charging I'd consider other options.

(Chevy Bolt EUV)

I got within an extremely close distance to getting a Model Y this year during the price cuts; I secured the loan and was looking into the insurance costs which is what ultimately killed my decision.

My car is paid off and I only pay for gas (I have the Prius Aqua 2016, ~53mpg, 4.44L/100km)

When I looked into the Y, first of all they don't allow you to get an insurance quote without first putting a down payment. If I had gone through with the purchase, I'd be looking at almost 570$/month on the car loan alone with the trade-in, plus another 140/month (I currently pay 80$/month, roughly) for insurance through my current company (this is only a ballpark figure based on me pulling a VIN number online and feeding it into a quote; that number could possibly be significantly higher). That puts my excess car expenses conservatively at 650$/month just for a new car. The literal only problems I have with my current car is that it can't tow my horse trailer and that it's a "dumb" petrol car with no infotainment and a physical key. I'm probably going to put a 12" iPad in the center console for infotainment and call it a day and keep that around for another 4 years until Apple CarPlay 2 trickles down to affordable EVs.

In summation, I really don't think EVs are worth it unless you absolutely must buy a new car. There are new infotainment options on the horizon like Apple CarPlay 2 and Android Automotive with Android Auto as standard... right now is the literal worst time to buy a car. Not to mention that NACS is going to replace CCS in the USA in the 2026 model cars. Your resale value in the mid 2030s will be absolute dogshit if you don't wait for the NACS port in next year's cars.

Yes, I ended up selling and buying a hybrid. Super happy with the hybrid.

• Basically instant "recharge" speed.

• Longer range.

• More vehicle options.

• Don't have to worry about heat or cold draining my fuel.

• Can leave the car stationary for long periods of time without the fuel draining.

• More fueling stations.

• More reliable fueling stations (chargers may be broken.)

• Less software bullshit. (Tesla)

• Less possibly breaking updates. (Tesla) No joke. My car's software literally crashed on the freeway once and I was essentially driving blind because all the screens went blank.

I drive a lot and for long distances. Switching to hybrid made trips shorter by an hour.

And I still got to keep fancy drive assist features. It's like 80% of autopilot, if not more.

Oh! And big one! Even though an electric car may say something like 500km range! That's NOT the usable range! You're not going to be driving the car to 0km. You're not even supposed to charge to 100% most of the time! So most of the time you'll charge to 80%, that's 400km in the battery. But, you probably wanna play it safe, so you'll want to recharge with 50km to 100km left in the battery. Leaving you with about 300km of usable range.

Then the heat, cold, and time will slowly drain your 300km....

Meanwhile, my hybrid has about 700km of usable range, regardless of time and weather.

Other than the fact that I overspent a bit, I don't regret it. Especially since I live in Florida and didn't have to deal with the gas shortages due to the hurricanes. As long as you have a reliable means of charging at home (or at work), you are good 95% of the time.

If you do any regular long-range driving, be sure you get one that can support that distance. Public EV chargers can still be hit-or-miss, and that's the biggest downside in my opinion. They aren't too frequent, and a lot of times they just don't work. You also generally need to get an account for each charging network, or else it can be hard to pay or you just pay more. But I can live with that, because it is very much an exceptional part of my driving habits.

Privacy and security concerns, most of them are like big tech on wheels. See Telsa and others spying on users during intimate moments. Also most have major security vulnerabilities.

I've been wanting a plug-in hybrid, where you're fully electric under ~40mi of daily travel, and if you exceed it switches to gas for backup. RAV4 prime has been my dream car lately....

Probably Angela Chao.

Sorry shit answer, I just hate Mitch.