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[โ€“] [email protected] 8 points 6 days ago (4 children)

I spent about 20 years getting stuck in the past while the culture got away from me; I just hadn't got into any bands since the early 2000s, and it was getting pretty sad.

I also have pretty bad ADHD - music fucks up my ability to concentrate on language-based tasks, so I can't just play stuff in the background while I do something else - and sitting there staring through multiple songs in a row just isn't going to happen.

So I had a great idea: turn it into a game.

I nuked my youtube data completely, started again from scratch, and set out, not so much to discover new music, but to train the algorithm to fetch me cool stuff. How well can I nudge the thing into a model of stuff I tend to like?

  • Open the home feed, and start going through it
  • Reaction videos, influencers, other garbage, hit don't recommend channel.
  • Any music videos, open in new tab
  • Rinse and repeat until I have a ridiculous number of tabs open
  • Go through each tab:
  • Skip through representative chunks of song, get at least 20 seconds of music in before making a decision
  • If you just don't like it, close the tab and move on.
  • If you do like it:
  • If it's not posted by the original artist account, go find the original instead if possible.
  • Hit like
  • Save to playlists for whatever genres it seems to fit, plus a catch-all list (set public, for reasons I'll explain)
  • Open a few new tabs off the sidebar
  • If you find three solid bangers from one artist, subscribe.
  • When you run out of tabs, refresh the home feed.

It's adjustable to suit my attention span at the time - if I need the dopamine I just skim more, if I want to chill I let it play longer.

It fits into spare minutes of downtime at work etc.

I have discovered SO MUCH amazing new music, and my tastes have expanded in all kinds of directions. I've started not only recognizing but actually having opinions on bands I see on posters as I walk down the street, which is just plain ridiculous for me.

I have gone down some weird and amazing rabbit holes, from Armenian music to Femtanyl.

Probably the best thing I've ever done, srsly.

Sometimes the algorithm can get stale, and you end up with a streak of bland, safe stuff that all seems the same.

When this happens, find one of the many third-party playlist-shuffle sites (because the built-in shuffle is still horribly broken), and feed it either your main playlist or some of the genre-specific ones you feel aren't getting enough love, and listen through a bunch of songs there to dredge up the silt. (you may need to open them in separate tabs; the embed doesn't always update your watch history properly). And this is why the lists need to be public, so third-party sites can browse your playlists.

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[โ€“] [email protected] 1 points 6 days ago

Community radio, my kids (and they find music through me too), YouTube music recommendations, opening bands at concerts, and sometimes NPR.

[โ€“] [email protected] 2 points 6 days ago

Theuppermostinlife curates a bunch of music they like, and I share some of their taste so that's where I get a bunch of new stuff from.

[โ€“] [email protected] 8 points 6 days ago (2 children)

I'm mainly interested in old time fiddle tunes. I get them from youtube recommends sometimes, or from going to jams and hearing a cool tune, or someone I play with wants to learn a tune. I often post tunes I like on my old-time music lemmy community.

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[โ€“] [email protected] 2 points 6 days ago

Mostly through movies/tv shows or sometimes NPR Tiny Desk

[โ€“] [email protected] 5 points 6 days ago (1 children)

Bandcamp mostly. They do writeups sometimes like "the best metal from Colorado" or "a deep dive into acid jazz". They seem to be human written too and not ai slop, at least in the past.

Also seeing who's playing with who. If I like band A, and band B is opening for them, well I'll check out band B. I saw "Year of the Cobra" play with "The Well" and it was a good show, and I bought their album.

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[โ€“] [email protected] 4 points 1 week ago
[โ€“] [email protected] 5 points 1 week ago

Anymore it's either through yt recommendations or sometimes I'll see other people recommending songs and decide to look them up.

[โ€“] [email protected] 1 points 1 week ago

A friend recommended pitchfork yesterday to me. Haven't gotten around to it though

[โ€“] [email protected] 3 points 1 week ago (1 children)

I've been paying for a Pandora subscription for about a decade. Worth it. (Piracy is a service problem.)

Their recommendations for similar bands, auto play, and making stations from a band or song has let me discover so much music over the years.

[โ€“] [email protected] 4 points 1 week ago (1 children)

(Piracy is a service problem.)

Piracy isn't a problem.

[โ€“] [email protected] 8 points 1 week ago (1 children)

I mean, I have a home server setup with 32 terabytes of NAS in a RAID 5 running the *Arrs and Jellyfin pulling from Usenet. Also running Calibre and paying for Anna's.

Like I told a friend that got huffy with me over how I do my sailing, "I been pirating since you had babyteeth."

You can be prickly if you want, but increased piracy is a symptom of a service problem. If Netflix hadn't gone to shit, I'd still be using it. I'm considering paying for Samsung's art subscription for my TV.

I will pay a reasonable price for convenient media. Make it difficult or expensive enough, and I'll sail the high seas. Time is money.

[โ€“] [email protected] 3 points 6 days ago (1 children)

I've got the same setup but less storage. But more importantly, what's Anna's?

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[โ€“] [email protected] 30 points 1 week ago (2 children)

Currently working my way through 1,001 Albums You Must Hear Before You Die with some friends using this website: https://1001albumsgenerator.com

[โ€“] [email protected] 9 points 1 week ago

Oh wow, nice share

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[โ€“] [email protected] 14 points 1 week ago (2 children)
[โ€“] [email protected] 3 points 6 days ago

Very cool. Kind of like how Pandora used to be when it first started.

[โ€“] [email protected] 6 points 1 week ago

This thread is throwing up gold

[โ€“] [email protected] 5 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (1 children)

Find a stoner buddy whose autistic special interest is music and music history. You'll have endless recommendations for cool shit.

Source: One of my best mates' autistic special interest is music and music history.

As for me personally, I like looking up music and genres specific to local areas, particularly those from other cultures. Afrobeat's been big on my mind ever since I discovered it, and I've been having good luck searching through old Zamrock albums.

[โ€“] [email protected] 2 points 1 week ago

You should post to [email protected] โ€“ it's a world-culture comm

[โ€“] [email protected] 5 points 1 week ago (1 children)

I'm 57 and I mostly don't. I have built up a large collection of favourite bands and songs and tend to just stick to them.

[โ€“] [email protected] 1 points 1 week ago

youtube shuffle works great, its truly random, give it a try.

[โ€“] [email protected] 1 points 1 week ago

Bandcamp follows and whatever is playing on CBC music.

[โ€“] [email protected] 3 points 1 week ago

I follow a bunch of hash tags on Mastodon.

[โ€“] [email protected] 5 points 1 week ago (2 children)

I really don't care how Kanye does anything.

[โ€“] [email protected] 3 points 6 days ago

Different pronunciation. Kanye's ye is "yay" while the plural second person pronoun "ye" is pronounce like "Yee"

[โ€“] [email protected] 1 points 1 week ago (3 children)

I don't know wwhat that means

[โ€“] [email protected] 1 points 6 days ago* (last edited 6 days ago)

Are you Irish? Those are the only people I've heard use "ye" for the plural "you". Which is a shame, because it has a nice ring to it. Ye and Y'all are like yin and yang

[โ€“] [email protected] 1 points 6 days ago

It's a joke, he changed his name to Ye

[โ€“] [email protected] 4 points 1 week ago* (last edited 6 days ago)

Typo in your title. Kanye is known as "Ye".

Edit: maybe not typo

[โ€“] [email protected] 3 points 1 week ago

I subscribe to the digital stream of radio stations through my podcast app. WFUV out of New York City, WXRV out of I don't know where, some random station out of Sydney, Australia I stumbled on that has an EDM DJ on at the same time I'm waking up on the weekends.

I also have Spotify, but I tend to get better recommendations from real human DJs at radio stations.

[โ€“] [email protected] 2 points 1 week ago

Bandcamp Features

[โ€“] [email protected] 4 points 1 week ago (1 children)

I have a large list on bandcamp that I follow to try and stay up with as many releases as I can, also following relevant genre "tags" on there to get recommendations from artists I may not know about. The genre tags can be hit and miss though due to artists often being unable to tag their work properly.

I'll also listen to shows on SoundCloud and will search out tracks and new artists I hear on there. I'll also occasionally check the Juno charts if I have run out of new music to listen to and in the last year started building up a follow list on Spotify to check new releases there that I may have missed from all the other avenues.

[โ€“] [email protected] 4 points 1 week ago (2 children)

It's a shame Bandcamp killed RSS

[โ€“] [email protected] 4 points 1 week ago (2 children)

Despite being aware of it for a quarter of a century I have never used RSS although I probably should.

Bandcamp is slowly getting worse but depending on your core genre interests for me it is still by far the best choice.

[โ€“] [email protected] 3 points 6 days ago

RSS is so handy, it's a shame it's not as supported as it used to be. I used to read a ton of webcomics, not all of them with consistent release schedules, some of them on social media sites I don't use much, and RSS was how I kept track of them all.

[โ€“] [email protected] 4 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Bandcamp's the best of a bad lot: no DRM is a big deal. When they had RSS they were nearly perfect.

[โ€“] [email protected] 3 points 1 week ago

Pretty much. They still run bandcamp Friday too when the artists get all the money for sales so I generally stack up my wishlist and try to make my purchases on that one Friday a month.

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