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They've inherited two crashes (2008 and COVID) that needed serious fixing.

100% agree, but I’ve noticed that literally everyone does this. It’s infuriating but likely we’re all (generally speaking) too tribal and uneducated to not pin the economy on the president.

Showing the deficit is better than debt.

When you look at deficit you can see it spiked in 2008 and then came down under Obama. Not to the level before, but it came down pretty well. Then with Trump, before Covid, the deficit was going up quite notably. That was from his tax breaks. Then it really spiked with Covid. So I think we can say a lot about Trump's policy and deficit.

Yeah, this post was painful to look at considering it shows very nicely where the world wide pandemic happened, and nothing else about Trump's presidency.

Now, could those spikes been lower with a competent president? Maybe, but the post doesn't even try to address it

This is some low quality xitter level misleading shit, regardless of the intentions

Agreed. The slopes don't change across the presidential changeover.

Yes! These charts are not that difficult to understand. Why aren't they spamming these all over the place?

The problem is that most voters are too uneducated to understand messages like this anyway, due to the aforementioned education crisis.

One of the worst things about trump is he gets his opponent to talk about how horrible of a person he is and not how horrible of a president he was.

It is easy to put all this shit on Trump's shoulders, when we've had decades of public policy that amounts to "The state cannot help you, only hurt you" reinforced by Drug Wars and untreated epidemics and trillions tossed into the burn pits overseas and an increasing hostility towards whomever is currently in office based entirely on your deteriorating economic and ecological conditions.

Running ads like this would actually change the “moderate Republicans” minds

None of this data is a secret. People post about it online and go back-and-forth on those talking head shows on it all the time. There are a number of conservative rebuttals, starting with a different set of graphs showing a different set of big scary lines when Democrats take office that go down when Republicans take office and ending with a fixation on conservative issues (number of immigrants, number of people in social programs, rising cost of fossil fuels, propensity of young people to self-report as being LGBTQ, volume of taxes paid, number of regulations, etc, etc) that tell a different story.

The issue is not that Ds lack some Killer Points, its that media is increasingly and overwhelmingly a product of conservative business interests. When Clear Channel and Sinclair and NewsCorp and Amazon/Microsoft/Facebook/Tesla shareholders own and operate all the venues of discourse, you're going to hear discourse that's biased to the opinions of these corporate bureaucrats and board rooms.

trump is basically Zaphood

He's not. Zaphood is this charming quick-witted glamor obsessed cartoon character with no real power or influence outside what he can get his hands on straight away.

Trump is a figurehead for a real national conservative political project encompassing tens of thousands of activists and bureaucrats. The folks surrounding Trump are the same ones who were surrounding Bush in the '00s. In some cases, they were the same ones surrounding Obama, Clinton, and Reagan. Guys like current Trump critic Mark Milley have been circulating in both parties for decades, always as a war-hawk preaching a more hostile relationship with Middle Eastern and East Asian states. There are dozens of other Mark Milleys still in Trump's orbit. There are Mark Milleys in Kamala's orbit.

That's one of the more frustrating aspects of this race. So much of what we're hearing from both candidates is just the liberal case versus the conservative case of "How To Bomb Iran" or "How To Seal the Border Against Evil Foreigners" or "How To Force People To Have More Kids" or "How To Get More Money Spent on AI".

Graphs like this seem to neglect what these historical presidents did with their power when they had it. You're looking at broad market and congressional spending trends without discussing what policies went into place and what consequences they had.