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A lot of the things we do on a daily or weekly basis have ways of doing them that can either be private or communal, some of these which we do not think to consider as having that characteristic.

For example, bathing in the Roman Empire used to be communal, but then Rome fell and citizens in the splinter countries began taking baths privately.

Receiving mail is another example. There are countries which don’t have mailboxes and everyone gets their mail at the post office in the PO boxes. It was the United States which pioneered the idea of the modern mail system, which is why we associate it as a private act.

There are activities as well which don’t have any history as jumping between one or the other that might benefit from it, for example I think towns might benefit if internet was free and freely accessible but only at the local library.

What’s a non-communal aspect of life you think should be communal?

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[–] [email protected] 89 points 1 month ago (16 children)

Cooking. 5 people working together can cook for 100 people easier, cheaper, and less wastefully than 100 people can cook for themselves/their families.

Unfortunately the current restaurant system in the US is incredibly wasteful, expensive, and pays fuckall.

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[–] [email protected] -5 points 1 month ago (15 children)

Generally think private homes are a giant waste, both in terms of wasted physical space and energy lost due to poor insulation.

Living should be communal. No residential construction should hold less than eight housing units.

After you do this, you can consolidate a bunch of an amenities - washing machines, parking, central heating/AC, pools, gardens, outdoor grills, wet and dry bars, basements, rumpace rooms, home theaters.

It all gets so much nicer when it's a communal living space.

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[–] [email protected] 12 points 1 month ago (5 children)
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[–] [email protected] 33 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

Management and operations of any apartment buildings.

Make em all co ops.

[–] [email protected] 11 points 1 month ago

are there actually places where the public library doesn't already offer free internet access?

[–] [email protected] 11 points 1 month ago (6 children)

This is very close to your mail example but can we please move on from delivering items directly to houses? Just give me a destribution center or box at a 10-15 min walking distance and I'll gladly pick up everything from there when it's actually convenient. We can still keep the other model for special cases.

[–] [email protected] 14 points 1 month ago (3 children)

"special cases" being everyone who doesn't live in a town? I'm lucky in that my village post office hasn't been shut down, but I'd still have to drive to collect my post every day. It's much more efficient that a single vehicle delivers post to hundreds of houses.

Maybe it makes sense in urban areas for able-bodied people. Still a drag to have to walk there every day when you don't even know if you've got post because something important might have arrived.

Sorry, I didn't mean to poop on your idea so much, it is a genuinely interesting idea, I just don't think it works with the way society is currently set up in my country

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 month ago (3 children)

Sorry yes this assumes you live in a place where you can walk to something like a post office or a supermarket. Rural US may not have this but that's already kind of a problem. You don't have to go every day though. You can just get a notification when your delivery is actually there. This is already done in some places by companies but in a smaller scale where the available boxes are very limited and only for smaller items. With special cases I meant people who have trouble leaving the house for whatever reason.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 month ago (2 children)

Honestly If I could just get the part when they notify me when there's something to pick up and make junk mail illegal that would be great. As it is I hate checking my mail box every day just to dump literally all of it directly into the trash. I would love to just be notified when there is actually something I need to pay attention to.

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[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 month ago

I could see delivery drivers really appreciating this. They deserve a break.

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[–] [email protected] 45 points 1 month ago (5 children)

Re: internet only available at the public library.

Hell no. That would really fuck over disabled people.

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[–] [email protected] 13 points 1 month ago

transportation, natch

[–] [email protected] 25 points 1 month ago (5 children)

Clothes being optional

Im not saying we should be nude all the time. Clothes have their purpose.I think we should have the option to be nude in public, without making it sexual

[–] [email protected] 15 points 1 month ago

Nude beaches are nice places for exactly this reason. It's like everyone tacitly agrees not to give a shit.

You can walk past people with your balls waving in the breeze and nobody even blinks - and more importantly, someone can walk past you with their tits akimbo and you don't even blink. It's not sexual, it's not even interesting, it has no significance here. It's like seeing someone breastfeeding: yes, boobs are still great, but we're not doing that right now.

And that's just a really nice headspace to be in. All of the unconscious monkey-politics games just go away, you don't have to think of people in those terms, or concern yourself with where you stand relative to them, because we're just not doing that.

Oh no, you'll see unattractive naked people! Yep, most of them in fact. And honestly that's kind of awesome. 85yo woman pottering around living her best life stark naked and not giving one single shit: you go girl. Fuck yeah. You know how people say they look forward to being old enough to just not give a fuck any more? You can have that yourself right now, right here, for free.

It's funny, walking past clothed beaches afterwards, you realise just how sexualised many swimsuits really are. A bunch of naked people are honestly about as glamorous and exciting as a pile of dead sheep; fashion designers do one hell of a job creating drama and hype around it all.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (1 children)

I never feel inconvenienced by having to wear clothing. I suppose part of that is because as a man, I can go shirtless without getting stares and I wouldn't want to be without underwear (for support) even if I were on a deserted island. I wonder what the circumstances you have in mind are in which you would like to have the option of being nude in public.

Edit: Now that I think about it, there have been a few times when I wanted to go swimming and just swimming in my underwear wasn't an option because I would have to walk while wearing it later and that would be uncomfortable.

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[–] [email protected] 11 points 1 month ago (5 children)

Most places in the US legally allow nudity, with the main barrier being people calling the police and making a big deal out of doing something legal.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 1 month ago

In my area, you can be nude on private property as long as a neighbor has to make an effort to see you. My back yard allows it.

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[–] [email protected] 30 points 1 month ago (2 children)

I think towns might benefit if internet was free and freely accessible but only at the local library.

Are you saying that private access to internet should be illegal?

Or that your libraries don't offer internet access to its patrons?

[–] [email protected] 13 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (2 children)

If it's only available at one place, it's not freely accessible.

Logistically, how would that work? Libraries would have to be everywhere and they'd have to be massive. The IT infrastructure to support that would be immense. How would privacy work? Where could I go to have a private telehealth appointment, for example?

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 month ago (3 children)

Freely accessible just means anyone can get to a library, no? I'm not saying that internet should ONLY be at the library. That's OP, lol

Libraries where I live offer internet access to any patron (who must be a resident of the city). I can comfortably walk to 3 libraries, but only 1 is within a 15-minute walk. Not everyone in my city is so fortunate, but someone with limited internet needs has many options for free here.

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[–] [email protected] 142 points 1 month ago (8 children)

Owning tools and equipment. I wish my neighborhood or town had a tool library.

[–] [email protected] 35 points 1 month ago (2 children)

Google your city name and “maker space” to see if there’s any near you. Not only does my local library district have them, there’s another local option with a monthly membership fee. They have large equipment like laser engravers, CNCs, drill presses, etc. They usually also have small stuff like drills that you can check out and bring home. Also a great way to meet other makers in your community

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[–] [email protected] 7 points 1 month ago

That's a real thing, there's one near me

[–] [email protected] 32 points 1 month ago (1 children)

I’ve seen those public bike repair racks with attached tools. I feel like that’s the closest thing to that we have

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