Those dates are a little unfair, the su34 is basically two decades older, but got put on Ice. And the newer models F16 are a huge leap up from the original 70s model.
this post was submitted on 13 Oct 2024
305 points (98.7% liked)
NonCredibleDefense
6623 readers
501 users here now
A community for your defence shitposting needs
Rules
1. Be nice
Do not make personal attacks against each other, call for violence against anyone, or intentionally antagonize people in the comment sections.
2. Explain incorrect defense articles and takes
If you want to post a non-credible take, it must be from a "credible" source (news article, politician, or military leader) and must have a comment laying out exactly why it's non-credible. Low-hanging fruit such as random Twitter and YouTube comments belong in the Matrix chat.
3. Content must be relevant
Posts must be about military hardware or international security/defense. This is not the page to fawn over Youtube personalities, simp over political leaders, or discuss other areas of international policy.
4. No racism / hatespeech
No slurs. No advocating for the killing of people or insulting them based on physical, religious, or ideological traits.
5. No politics
We don't care if you're Republican, Democrat, Socialist, Stalinist, Baathist, or some other hot mess. Leave it at the door. This applies to comments as well.
6. No seriousposting
We don't want your uncut war footage, fundraisers, credible news articles, or other such things. The world is already serious enough as it is.
7. No classified material
Classified ‘western’ information is off limits regardless of how "open source" and "easy to find" it is.
8. Source artwork
If you use somebody's art in your post or as your post, the OP must provide a direct link to the art's source in the comment section, or a good reason why this was not possible (such as the artist deleting their account). The source should be a place that the artist themselves uploaded the art. A booru is not a source. A watermark is not a source.
9. No low-effort posts
No egregiously low effort posts. E.g. screenshots, recent reposts, simple reaction & template memes, and images with the punchline in the title. Put these in weekly Matrix chat instead.
10. Don't get us banned
No brigading or harassing other communities. Do not post memes with a "haha people that I hate died… haha" punchline or violating the sh.itjust.works rules (below). This includes content illegal in Canada.
11. No misinformation
NCD exists to make fun of misinformation, not to spread it. Make outlandish claims, but if your take doesn’t show signs of satire or exaggeration it will be removed. Misleading content may result in a ban. Regardless of source, don’t post obvious propaganda or fake news. Double-check facts and don't be an idiot.
Join our Matrix chatroom
Other communities you may be interested in
Banner made by u/Fertility18
founded 1 year ago
MODERATORS
Also very relevant is the missiles in use. Those certainly are not from the 70s.
It's not like the Ukrainians are getting new block 70s. Thery're almost certainly old block 40s on the verge of retirement.
True, but the MLU/block 50 version is also from the mid to late 90s.
I'm more interested in knowing how Lauren Phillips feels about being an F-16 in this meme.
I'm sure she's flattered as a true patriot. I know she is. I've seen her in patriotic wear.
Not, like, a LOT of patriotic wear by square inches. But enough.
I should inform you that the search term you're looking for is "aeromorph".
You're welcome.
Those words are not in the bible. Or Quran. Or any holy book.
You sure? I could have sworn it was in that one passage in Hezekiah.
And thus a-ok
That.. certainly was something.
Nope. That's definitely not what I was looking for.
Wdym? Aeromorphs are pure NCD. Living aircraft. You telling me that isn't something NCD would come up with?
Yeah right? Why would I need to search for it? Like I don't already have multiple TBs of material.
Nobody's gonna mention that this is an F-16B cockpit and Ukraine got single-seater F-16MLUs?
Can't even enjoy this any more, I'm like sandpaper atm.
I think it's just reposts from Reddit?
🌍👩🚀🔫👨🚀
I dislike Russian aggression as much as the next non tankie but can we agree the Su34 looks fucking amazing?
It's only natural to be curious. We're human after-all. Just remember you can look but don't touch. I'll never forgive you if you cheat on F35-chan and break her heart.
I'm not sure about the different colour on the beak.
Sukhoi sure makes beautiful planes
im more of an assman, myself.
IMO basically every Soviet / Russian jet has looked better than American jets.
I like the look of the MiG-15, the 21, etc. But, IMO the jets really got beautiful right as the Soviet Union was collapsing.
The SU-27 is a beautiful plane, the MiG-29 too. It just seems like with some of these jets, the American equivalents were designed by computer and manufactured precisely to spec. While, it feels like some of the Soviet planes involved guys with hammers trying to make a beautiful curved surface.
It also helps that the Russians often use colourful paint jobs, while the US uses flat boring grey that shows every flaw.
F-86 is a work of art, and the Mig-15 looks like a 3D printed copy found on Etsy.
The raptor definitely looks better than the felon imo, but for 4-4.5 gen, yeah, I’d agree in terms of looks for the most part. Though there are a couple exceptions - the F-104 looks cooler than the MiG-21, imo.
Edit: surprised nobody called me out for citing 2nd gen jets lol
I dunno. The nose of the MiG-21 looks weird, but I really like the look of the delta wings, the rudder and the ailerons. The F-104 with nothing mounted on the wingtips looks like a dart, which is cool I suppose. With the typical big fuel tanks on the wingtips it looks like some kind of catamaran.
Luckily the rule of cool doesn't apply IRL
Don't get me wrong, nearly every fighter plane looks cool. But, it's just different varieties of cool. Like, a lot of the US planes look Lamborghini-cool, with hard surfaces and so on. The Russian / Soviet planes just look more sculpted.
And, if the rule of cool doesn't apply, then why did P-40 fighter planes have shark's mouths?
Because Americans are kinda like W40k orcs and think painting something makes it stronger, although it actually works for the orcs.
/jk
It works for America too. Confidence is a hell of a drug.
By the way, does anybody have a credible take on the current status/outlook of the war?
I hear nothing about the Kursk offense now, but mainstream news mention recent Russian successes in the East. I understand striking deep into Russia with US weapons would be critical, but I think that is unlikely to happen before the elections.
I am (again) worried for Ukraine, and to our Western politicians f*cking this up.
I love yall but yall gotta stop doing this in NCD. Is there a more credible community yall can have these discussions in? We're here for jokes and shitposting. Real, honest, fact-based discussions (especially involving politics) really don't belong here. [email protected] might be a better fit.
Yeah, nuke that serious post from orbit!
Good mod post
No answer received here should be trusted regardless how credible it sounds anyway, you may as well ask ChatGPT how the war is going, you'll get a similar level of trustability
To be fair that is also true of the other online communities that take themselves more seriously.
I dont actually know how trustworthy this site is, but it is nice for getting a visual view of the front lines. https://liveuamap.com/
This was not the
By the way does anybody
I was hoping for
The Russians are throwing everything at the salient, it's brutal and costly and the Ukrainians probably won't be able to hold too long.
But it also did it's job: it was a target Russia HAD to take back, and it bought a few months for the American equipment to come online.
What is really needed is Russian territory authorization, and the election to be over so there's less doubt of continued supply, and new weapons packages can be drawn up.
You can sign up for ISW’s newsletter, they do a good job of reporting what’s going on from a fairly dry, but western perspective. Last I saw they were reporting that Russia is aggressively counter attacking in Kursk to attempt to dislodge the Ukrainians before the fall mud sets in. It’s not looking great on the front but there are quite a few indications that the Russian attacks are not sustainable long-term. That said, I’ve seen reports saying that for a while now and the grinding attrition has continued.
Incredible. 74 sources on their latest piece and almost all Telegram, and some Facebook.
Key takeaways (@[email protected]):
People have been saying that basically from day one yet the Russians keep coming. Obviously this isn't sustainable long term but nobody knows how long they can keep going.