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At least on the communities i follow. Every so often I come across a thread where i recognize most of the users there even in the big communities with over 30k members and I haven't even been on lemmy that long.

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[–] [email protected] 37 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago) (2 children)

I can’t speak to Lemmy specifically but my Reddit years were ages 15-30. I think I got my fill of arguing on the internet then.

I write a lot of comments on Lemmy that I end up deleting before posting because I just don’t want the hassle of arguing with someone about it who is being deliberately obtuse or arguing in bad faith.

That’s not an indictment of Lemmy specifically, but I think my lack of interest in those arguments comes with age and I suspect my story isn’t unique, the demographics will line up for a lot of Lemmy users.

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[–] [email protected] 13 points 2 months ago (3 children)

FlyingSquid is our mrbabyman.

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[–] [email protected] 25 points 2 months ago

The ratio of commenter/poster to lurker is always pretty lopsided. I also never read user names.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 2 months ago

No but I don’t think that’s a bad thing.

[–] [email protected] 18 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago) (2 children)

The majority of individuals on platforms like Lemmy—and social media more broadly—engage almost exclusively as passive consumers. Their involvement often begins and ends with the simple act of upvoting or downvoting content. This limited interaction speaks volumes about the nature of digital engagement, where consuming information or entertainment takes precedence over meaningful interaction or contribution. The absence of deeper engagement is not a failing of the platform itself but a reflection of broader societal tendencies.

People, in general, tend toward passivity, a trait that extends beyond online spaces and into areas like civic participation. In the United States, for example, voter turnout remains notoriously low. People express their dissatisfaction with the status quo, they crave change, and they criticize institutions, yet they shy away from taking the minimal steps required to enact that change, often hiding behind a hand-waving comment involving the words "systemic," "structure," and/or "institutions," a transparent way of excusing their unwillingness to actually act. As though they themselves are not parts of those systems, structures, and institutions. The same individuals who will upvote or downvote content online without a second thought are often the ones who abstain from voting in elections, an "upvote/downvote" that directly impact their lives.

What is even more concerning is that this passivity is not merely a result of laziness or apathy, but something ingrained and encouraged by modern society. Our institutions—whether educational, political, or corporate—tend to value compliance over initiative. Decision-making, once seen as a marker of personal agency and responsibility, is increasingly viewed as a burden. People have been conditioned to prefer being told what to do rather than take responsibility for their choices.

If a decision goes wrong, there's an inherent comfort in being able to place blame on someone else. This social conditioning makes being passive, fading into the wallpaper, not only acceptable but desirable for many. And yet, these same people will often feel deeply dissatisfied with their lives. But, rather than do something about it, they continue to be helpless, wishing someone would decide for them to improve their lives and then forcing them to do it.

While it's easy to express frustration with the passive nature of online participants, it is also, sadly, understandable. They are products of a society that rewards inaction more than action, where engagement is often reduced to the simplest and least effortful gestures. These platforms reflect the broader societal trend toward disengagement from real, consequential decision-making, reinforcing and reflecting a vicious cycle of passive impotence while they wait for someone or something to fix things for them.

[–] [email protected] 16 points 2 months ago

I disagree about the value of commenting and posting. If I don't have anything to actively contribute, and I know it, I'm doing you a favor by STFU. Entertainment and disengagement have nothing to do with it.

If I'm using this platform as a news aggregator, that's 100% passive and legitimate and respectable.

[–] [email protected] 8 points 2 months ago (1 children)

I comment but rarely. I'm a lurker

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[–] [email protected] 5 points 2 months ago

Most people are probably pretty passive, so yeah, I think there's a subset of posters who are highly visible. But even over at Hacker News, where there's a much larger audience commenting, I recognize specific names because something they said in the past got my attention and I start piecing together their personality a bit at a time.

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[–] [email protected] 30 points 2 months ago

Honestly, that's one of the cool parts of old internet (forums, chatrooms, etc.) is getting to know people, you get to know the community 😊

[–] [email protected] 28 points 2 months ago

Be the shitpost you want to see in the world.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 2 months ago

I have no idea why you are talking about

[–] [email protected] 6 points 2 months ago (1 children)
[–] [email protected] 0 points 2 months ago (1 children)

Lemmy.world is defederated from the major Marxist instances, so you might want to join a different instance for a fresh look. Lemmy in general is small enough to be dominated easily, what helps this is finding a good instance and treating said instance like a community with different tags, rather than treating communities like subreddits.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 2 months ago (2 children)

I have an account on sh.itjust.works that i rarely use. Then again, do i want to see posts from Marxists, especially the ones defederated from .world?

[–] [email protected] 1 points 2 months ago (1 children)

The ownership class will tremble before a communist revolution! We have nothing to lose but our chains!

[–] [email protected] 4 points 2 months ago (2 children)

Sh.itjust.works is also defederated. If you're a liberal, then you probably don't care for Marxism and Lemmy.world is going to be fine, the mods are anti-Marxism as well. You'll just run into the same issue of having a few posters dominate is all.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 2 months ago (1 children)

I thought hexbear was marxist. Oh well i guess I'll stick to seeing the same users

[–] [email protected] 4 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago) (1 children)

Hexbear is Marxist, yes, and is defederated with sh.itjust.works and lemmy.world.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 2 months ago (1 children)

Does defederation mean I only can't make any posts or comments to that instance. Because i can still view and seemingly join hexbear communities on my sh.itjust.works alt.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 2 months ago (1 children)

Interesting, when are the latest posts in those communitues?

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[–] [email protected] 2 points 2 months ago (1 children)

Huh, I haven't seen any sh.itjust.works comments on Hexbear, and sh.itjust.works is an anti-marxist instance as well. Interesting, could be a weird federation thing.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 2 months ago

Yeah i probably can't comment. Who knows, I haven't tried, but i can view posts alright

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