Anyone in tech who knowingly works for Google supports these things in the same way that anyone that works in tech who knowingly works for Meta support genocide and the erosion of the democratic process. I give the caveat “in tech” because there are some roles like content moderation or executive assistant where you really don’t have the luxury of a huge market working almost anywhere else that doesn’t support genocide and I don’t fault those faults for taking a job that has better benefits. My engineering peers? I judge them for it.
this post was submitted on 08 Oct 2024
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Give me a fucking job then.
I've been trying to get the fuck out of the DoD for years. No one fucking wants me. I'm so tired of trying. Fuck. I've been writing software since I was twelve and the most they let me do is automate software installs with fucking powershell ADT. Fucking poweshell, a god-damned toy language, and I don't even get to write it myself.
No one wants to hire me and I hate it.
Fuck yes. It is not enough to boycott companies with your money. You must also do so with your labor. Thank you for making a carve out exception for the little people in the picture. It would be better if they could withhold their labor as well, but many of the lowest in companies simply cannot afford to work somewhere else for less pay. As you pointed out, the engineers truly can take a pay cut and survive. Thank you for sharing your likely-to-be unpopular opinion.
Every few months a news story: "Google workers in revolt over XYZ". Then nothing changes. Not really a worker's revolt then.
Actual headlines should be “Google workers in revolt over XYZ but too afraid of losing their 6 figure salaries to do anything meaningful about it”
look into how a majority of their workers are H1B workers and why they cant speak up politically.
Yeah it's sad. I mean it's good, in a way that more people are aware of Nimbus now, but at the same time: nothing changes and some good people get fired over it, discouraging others to act in good faith for what they stand for.
I didn't know about Nimbus. I remember having read something about Google+Israel in the past, but didn't realize they were on board now.
All in all, fuck Google, again.
Would it be more effective to sabotage your own work in such a place?
That could get you in worse trouble than just getting fired.
Everyone makes mistakes. I know what my mistakes look like in general, and have the self awareness for plausible deniability. I'm not all that bright, so I assume someone in this position is more skilled and capable than I.
Depends on how many people are willing to take a stand simultaneously and how replaceable they are.
Similar to a union strike if enough people stop working the employer has no option but to cave in to the demands.
But the initial wave is usually the one meeting the most resistance when most people in a group aren't even open to an idea. It takes brave people who are willing to take the initial stand when it's still uncomfortable to do so.
Daddy gonna make a list for the next round of lay-offs lol
I hope this people understand what they are doing but with google comp if they saved, they will be fine. Maybe a good time get that severance and look for another job.
Getting fired felt like a possibility but never a reality
...tech people never fail to amaze me in their misty-eyed views of the companies they work for.
It's still disgusting and obviously an attempt to stifle dissent in the ranks, but like, firing someone for stuff like this is so common in the world that you have to be pretty naive to think it wasn't a reality and to prepare for it accordingly when you planned your sit-in.
Tech workers need unions so badly for reasons exactly like this.
I don't think even being in a union would help you there, unless you got the entire union on board.
I also don't understand why you'd even want to work for a company whose work you feel so strongly against.
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The biggest problem is tech workers tend to not be social and feel elitest. I know, I've been in the business 25+ years. You also have a lot of older folks poisoned against unions by politicians and the media. Building a tech union at this big companies is an uphill battle.
Can't expect people to do something they don't think they need.
It's a very fat industry. When (due to big fish failing, anti-monopoly activities, new systems, revolutions and nuclear wars) it finally becomes normal, there will be unions.
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