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"Secession", you say? (media.kbin.social)
submitted 9 months ago by [email protected] to c/[email protected]
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[–] [email protected] 4 points 9 months ago (1 children)

We aren't seceding, we promise. Sure it's interesting as a thought experiment. Texas has lots of things similar to developed nations, some of which many other states don't like international airport, excessive land, military bases (not sure on the comparison here), several industries including a huge chunk of the petroleum industry.

I think it's silly to pretend it would happen though, are we unhappy with the federal government? Sure, who is honestly pleased with how things have been trending lately, or even the past couple decades? But we have issues with our local government too, so it's not like it would be all sunshine and sweet tea if we didn't have the rest of the U. S.

[–] [email protected] 9 points 9 months ago (2 children)

But the military bases are USA owned... If they leave the US, no more bases...

[–] [email protected] 3 points 9 months ago

Exactly

If anything that's an immediate foothold and for Texas, a serious defensive liability, not an asset in any way.

Not that anything will ever come of this, but if Texas were to violently secede, it's highly likely that the US could put down the secession, occupy and assume control of the territory, and manage the forced reunification of same...

...all using only the US military forces already within the borders of Texas.

Again, not that it's actually going to happen, but in a just world, we'd let them do it, then occupy the "rogue state" and re-annex them, but as a territory.

Basically nothing changes for the citizenry except they lose the impact of the vote. Texas now gets one non-voting member in each chamber of the legislature, and send no electors to Washington for presidential elections.

They should also lose the ability to govern themselves at the state level and instead, affairs within the territory are managed by a joint panel of provisional military government working together with state department officials and UN observers.

While they're at it, let the US seize and nationalize all corporations, which now roll all profit back into reimbursing the American taxpayers for their trouble and expense of dealing with this Texan nonsense.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 9 months ago

The USA has bases all over the world, there’s even one in Cuba (which I’ve never understood)

[–] [email protected] 35 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago) (2 children)

This was my thought too!

Let them secede, then just go to war with them and claim the territory and depose the racist shitheads.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 9 months ago (1 children)

I think plenty of little desert countries have recently proved that the biggest military in the world might have some issues dealing with insurgencies.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago)

True. Imagine how much more successful a Texan insurgency force would be compared to the middle east. Their armored division would be formidable, the thunderous roar of hundreds of mobility scooters.

[–] [email protected] 17 points 9 months ago

Break us up into 5 states. Houston, Dallas, Brownsville, El Paso, and Austin!

[–] [email protected] 50 points 9 months ago

I imagine if the US wanted to, they could embargo it, and most if not all other nations would just see it as a parent putting a 6yo to the corner; not their job.

[–] [email protected] 52 points 9 months ago

Tell them it’s for their own good! They don’t even have an electrical grid that works properly!

[–] [email protected] 211 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago) (1 children)

Texas when they realise they're suddenly part of Latin-America.

The CIA:

[–] [email protected] 4 points 9 months ago (1 children)

What defines a country as latin american? I thought it was speaking a romance language, like Argentina, Brazil or Quebec

[–] [email protected] 8 points 9 months ago (2 children)

I thought it was the parts of the American continents that were originally settled by the people of Latin based languages

[–] [email protected] 2 points 9 months ago

Latin-America is the geo political equivalent of a bully victim, the bully being the US. I refer you to all the sanctions, embargoes, government coups, etc.

If Texas somehow manages to secede, it becomes Northern Mexico.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 9 months ago (1 children)

Would that include Louisiana?

[–] [email protected] 5 points 9 months ago (1 children)

I thought Louisiana was Jamaican and French?

[–] [email protected] 6 points 9 months ago (1 children)

French is a Romance Language.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago)

Y'know sometimes my stupidity is almost frightening.

Seriously though I took French in school I have no excuse lmao

[–] [email protected] 70 points 9 months ago (2 children)

[–] [email protected] 3 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago) (1 children)

And here I thought Texas had all the guns guess I was wrong

[–] [email protected] 6 points 9 months ago

Ohhh.. they DO have all the guns. It's a pity those gun range is not enough to shoot down all the very busy b-22 though

[–] [email protected] 19 points 9 months ago (1 children)

"Democracy is non-negotiable."

[–] [email protected] 1 points 9 months ago

We are Borg

[–] [email protected] 90 points 9 months ago (3 children)

Wouldn't it be great if the US started relocating it's military bases to other states? I'm sure NM, MI or CA would be happy to have them.

[–] [email protected] 55 points 9 months ago (2 children)

Oh you mean the 42 town-sized forward operating bases inside the treasonous province? They will come in very handy in the 72 hours it takes to resecure that territory.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 9 months ago (2 children)

Do people really think that the servicemen in the military would willingly attack Texans? I have a huge suspicion that they'd revolt within the armed forces.

[–] [email protected] 14 points 9 months ago

As someone currently serving active duty, yes - depending on the command climate and the servicemember. Especially if the targets are labeled as insurgents and a VEO threat with credible evidence. Now, bombing noncombatant civilians is a different story, but as far as conducting surgical strikes on domestic terrorists, no hesitation.

[–] [email protected] 10 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago)

National guard at Kent state had no issues killing civilians.

[–] [email protected] 24 points 9 months ago (2 children)

I always wondered how quick that would go down.

72 hours seems quick, but I guess they wouldn't really encounter actual resistance.

[–] [email protected] 16 points 9 months ago (1 children)

We did Baghdad in a month; we could do Austin in three days.

[–] [email protected] 13 points 9 months ago (2 children)

Barring the State politicians, I thought Austin was majority Democrat?

[–] [email protected] 1 points 9 months ago

makes it real easy to justify liberating it then, doesn't it? most of the people living there want to remain part of the US.

[–] [email protected] 13 points 9 months ago (2 children)

Probably, but nothing makes a statement like taking a regime's capital.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 9 months ago

Houston is the 4th largest city in the country, and generates a shitload of oil revenue. That's way more important than Austin.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 9 months ago (1 children)

That might crash the beard oil and red suspenders industries..

[–] [email protected] 4 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago)

Both of which are much better for the world than the current main industries of Texas: fossil fuels and fascism.

[–] [email protected] 32 points 9 months ago

Yeah “muh guns” are pretty useless against predator drones and air support

[–] [email protected] 116 points 9 months ago

That's already happening, because the draconian antitrans and anti-abortion laws are impacting readiness in those states and driving down recruitment.

[–] [email protected] 18 points 9 months ago (1 children)

Would love to see what they would do to the ones they leave to “decommission” them

[–] [email protected] 26 points 9 months ago (1 children)

If it’s anything like the rest, they just leave toxic fuel spills to slowly seep into all the aquifers

[–] [email protected] 31 points 9 months ago (1 children)

Perfect. Texas loves not having environmental regulations, so there shouldn't be any issue!

[–] [email protected] 25 points 9 months ago (1 children)

lol their power grid is already so fucked that key strikes against it would leave them wondering if it was part of the combat or if it had just failed of its own accord

[–] [email protected] 11 points 9 months ago

As I Texan, I both laughed and cried at how true this is.